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  • MenagerBLM MenagerBL

    @Majstor-Matt
    As you said, there is no logic at all...
    This is the profile of a manager from top20 on Global ranking:
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    Makes no sense... ๐Ÿ˜

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    jeffro davies
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    @MenagerBL said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    @Majstor-Matt
    As you said, there is no logic at all...
    This is the profile of a manager from top20 on Global ranking:
    18.png
    Makes no sense... ๐Ÿ˜

    Why isnโ€™t this explained? How can this profile be in the top 20 if all 4 accounts are looked at and used for starting positions?

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      jeffro davies
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      #22

      Is it games won and lost with the starting positions in the global ranking? Must be and nothing to do with 4 accounts combined manager points? No explanation on this.

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      • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

        Is it games won and lost with the starting positions in the global ranking? Must be and nothing to do with 4 accounts combined manager points? No explanation on this.

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        @jeffro-davies I think I saw them saying that only ranking slot gave you starting points (MP's mainly). Also I hguess that manager in top 20 had 2 or 3 leagues finished in last couple days as finishing a league gives you unrealisticly high bonus. One of my teammates got 40k for theit Thailand league finish 2 days ago.

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        • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

          @jeffro-davies I think I saw them saying that only ranking slot gave you starting points (MP's mainly). Also I hguess that manager in top 20 had 2 or 3 leagues finished in last couple days as finishing a league gives you unrealisticly high bonus. One of my teammates got 40k for theit Thailand league finish 2 days ago.

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          @Majstor-Matt still no proper explanation how it was worked out at the start though. Iโ€™ve won more games than him, lost more also but have loads more manager points than him over all 4 accounts. If the other 3 donโ€™t count thatโ€™s fine, would be better with an official answer.

          Would be nice to know how they worked out the starting ranking by someone who knows for sure though mate. Questions asked and not answered. Iโ€™m also being very polite so no reason not to get a reply. They want managers to take this ranking seriously then Staff should answer questions on it.

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            Really nice update, finally there is a level for managers, nice job GB.
            hey mans, just calm down because you're not in the high divisions doesn't mean it's OSM's fault,if you're good enough you'll be in the high divisions. Finally OSM thinks well, that a manager who has won more games with 4 slots must be higher than the one who plays only with main slots, with the ranking of managerpoints only, you saw managers in the top 100 with only 1000 wins in the whole his career, very bad ... Now whoever plays with 4 slots and wins the most games is higher in the divisions whoever plays only with one slot will be in the division he deserves to be.
            the things to improve in medals:
            1 ---> +10 experience bonus per game
            2 ---> -500 resignations

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            • roni medaR roni meda

              Really nice update, finally there is a level for managers, nice job GB.
              hey mans, just calm down because you're not in the high divisions doesn't mean it's OSM's fault,if you're good enough you'll be in the high divisions. Finally OSM thinks well, that a manager who has won more games with 4 slots must be higher than the one who plays only with main slots, with the ranking of managerpoints only, you saw managers in the top 100 with only 1000 wins in the whole his career, very bad ... Now whoever plays with 4 slots and wins the most games is higher in the divisions whoever plays only with one slot will be in the division he deserves to be.
              the things to improve in medals:
              1 ---> +10 experience bonus per game
              2 ---> -500 resignations

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              @roni-meda Update is not bad, Its just not developed enough so far. Problem is that in a year there will be too many Lvl 10 - Legend managers ( considering its easy to collect these medals) and also problem is that if all slots are combined for rankign, then all slots should've been taken into account for "starting points".

              All in all, its not a bad idea, just needs a bit more touches to it to make it more realistic and in order to give some meanings to divisions. Because if everyone will be level 10 soon, then what is the point in it?

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              • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                @Majstor-Matt still no proper explanation how it was worked out at the start though. Iโ€™ve won more games than him, lost more also but have loads more manager points than him over all 4 accounts. If the other 3 donโ€™t count thatโ€™s fine, would be better with an official answer.

                Would be nice to know how they worked out the starting ranking by someone who knows for sure though mate. Questions asked and not answered. Iโ€™m also being very polite so no reason not to get a reply. They want managers to take this ranking seriously then Staff should answer questions on it.

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                SpecialOne
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                #27

                @jeffro-davies Again... why don't you read before start making posts like this????? Write all this kind of things and later excuse because you missed it doesn't solve everything...

                Just check my post on previous page... If you want to check if the answer given is correct or if this was some sort of bug, just get the manager name of the user on the screenshot!

                "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

                  @roni-meda Update is not bad, Its just not developed enough so far. Problem is that in a year there will be too many Lvl 10 - Legend managers ( considering its easy to collect these medals) and also problem is that if all slots are combined for rankign, then all slots should've been taken into account for "starting points".

                  All in all, its not a bad idea, just needs a bit more touches to it to make it more realistic and in order to give some meanings to divisions. Because if everyone will be level 10 soon, then what is the point in it?

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                  SpecialOne
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                  @Majstor-Matt said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                  .... Because if everyone will be level 10 soon,....

                  I wouldn't count on it....

                  The higher you get, the lower the points you can earn and higher the penalties for losing. It will become more and more chalenging to keep increasing, but as I said already, let's give it some time and then take some conclusions ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  Give this system a chance to prove it's value ๐Ÿ‘

                  "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                  • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                    @Majstor-Matt said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                    .... Because if everyone will be level 10 soon,....

                    I wouldn't count on it....

                    The higher you get, the lower the points you can earn and higher the penalties for losing. It will become more and more chalenging to keep increasing, but as I said already, let's give it some time and then take some conclusions ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    Give this system a chance to prove it's value ๐Ÿ‘

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                    Koning Co
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                    @SpecialOne Can we keep playing on a lower level when we play less active? For example pick an strong league of my own division with my main account, but weaker leagues with subaccounts? Most of the time I play less active on subaccounts, so I don't want to play against the most active / best managers with my subaccounts.

                    I hope the division structure doesn't restrict the number of leagues I can play.

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                    • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                      @jeffro-davies Again... why don't you read before start making posts like this????? Write all this kind of things and later excuse because you missed it doesn't solve everything...

                      Just check my post on previous page... If you want to check if the answer given is correct or if this was some sort of bug, just get the manager name of the user on the screenshot!

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                      @SpecialOne said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                      @jeffro-davies Again... why don't you read before start making posts like this????? Write all this kind of things and later excuse because you missed it doesn't solve everything...

                      Just check my post on previous page... If you want to check if the answer given is correct or if this was some sort of bug, just get the manager name of the user on the screenshot!

                      Least I admit when Iโ€™m wrong not like on my last thread I made on the crew battle searching.

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                      • Koning CoK Koning Co

                        @SpecialOne Can we keep playing on a lower level when we play less active? For example pick an strong league of my own division with my main account, but weaker leagues with subaccounts? Most of the time I play less active on subaccounts, so I don't want to play against the most active / best managers with my subaccounts.

                        I hope the division structure doesn't restrict the number of leagues I can play.

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                        @KoningCo It's up to you to chose which leagues you want to join and in case you don't find any league that pleases you, you can always create your own league and selet which managers can join.

                        OSM provides suggestions of leagues to managers, but there are options for users to pick leagues that suites their preferences

                        "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                        • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                          @KoningCo It's up to you to chose which leagues you want to join and in case you don't find any league that pleases you, you can always create your own league and selet which managers can join.

                          OSM provides suggestions of leagues to managers, but there are options for users to pick leagues that suites their preferences

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                          @SpecialOne I hope choosing leagues remains as it is right now. I don't want to create leagues myself, but join leagues which contain enough human managers (strong opponents on my main accounts, a little weaker opponents on my subaccounts).

                          Have you read the suggestion I posted in August? I still haven't received any reply on that one: https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/post/1003007

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                          • Koning CoK Koning Co

                            @SpecialOne I hope choosing leagues remains as it is right now. I don't want to create leagues myself, but join leagues which contain enough human managers (strong opponents on my main accounts, a little weaker opponents on my subaccounts).

                            Have you read the suggestion I posted in August? I still haven't received any reply on that one: https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/post/1003007

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                            @KoningCo said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                            Have you read the suggestion I posted in August? I still haven't received any reply on that one: https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/post/1003007

                            As it was already stated on that topic, only in really rare situations feedback will be provided, but rest assured that all suggestions are read ๐Ÿ‘

                            "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                            • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                              @KoningCo said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                              Have you read the suggestion I posted in August? I still haven't received any reply on that one: https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/post/1003007

                              As it was already stated on that topic, only in really rare situations feedback will be provided, but rest assured that all suggestions are read ๐Ÿ‘

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                              @SpecialOne said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                              As it was already stated on that topic, only in really rare situations feedback will be provided, but rest assured that all suggestions are read ๐Ÿ‘

                              Too bad GB still doesn't understand this. Users want to interact with GB. If they say it's technically impossible then it's fine for me. But many of us feel that GB only implements idea's that they figured out themselves and never implement good idea's that were posted by users.

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                              • Koning CoK Koning Co

                                @SpecialOne said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                As it was already stated on that topic, only in really rare situations feedback will be provided, but rest assured that all suggestions are read ๐Ÿ‘

                                Too bad GB still doesn't understand this. Users want to interact with GB. If they say it's technically impossible then it's fine for me. But many of us feel that GB only implements idea's that they figured out themselves and never implement good idea's that were posted by users.

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                                Hello, are medals taken into account in battles?
                                I never have medals after my battle matches, nor at the end of the last battle yet won individually and collectively 5 days ago.
                                At least I have the impression ...

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                                • timilic7T timilic7

                                  Hello, are medals taken into account in battles?
                                  I never have medals after my battle matches, nor at the end of the last battle yet won individually and collectively 5 days ago.
                                  At least I have the impression ...

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                                  @timilic7 I'm playing a battle right now, I just check it and... 2-2 and I received 379 medals for the match!

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                                    @timilic7 I'm playing a battle right now, I just check it and... 2-2 and I received 379 medals for the match!

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                                    @Markez17
                                    Hi, thanks for your answer..I lost 1-0 last night. But once again no medals lost or won ... And those for 4 days, so the last ones from the previous championship as well as the medals for the end of the battle championship .. It starts to do a lot ...

                                    What to do ?

                                    Thank you for your previous answer

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                                      @Markez17
                                      Hi, thanks for your answer..I lost 1-0 last night. But once again no medals lost or won ... And those for 4 days, so the last ones from the previous championship as well as the medals for the end of the battle championship .. It starts to do a lot ...

                                      What to do ?

                                      Thank you for your previous answer

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                                      @timilic7 Well, I'm not really sure if you want to see the medals you got (lost) on last battle match:

                                      It's working correctly and you've been getting the rewards.

                                      Bonuses of last match:
                                      MatchBonus -792
                                      SkillRatingOpponentBonus -245

                                      You can't see it only on this slot or in all your slots? It's on App or Web?

                                      "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                                      • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                                        @timilic7 Well, I'm not really sure if you want to see the medals you got (lost) on last battle match:

                                        It's working correctly and you've been getting the rewards.

                                        Bonuses of last match:
                                        MatchBonus -792
                                        SkillRatingOpponentBonus -245

                                        You can't see it only on this slot or in all your slots? It's on App or Web?

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                                        @SpecialOne
                                        good evening, thank you for your answer .. then I go through the application and only in the battle I never have the medals. more or less ... and that from the beginning ... and above all even I do not see them, but they never enter my total of medals. Notament my battle won last week ... this evening I went through the Web version after my draw is there everything works .. I have my count and it adds to my total ... I lost a week of medals and especially the end of championship bonus from the previous battle ... thank you all the same for the answer ...

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                                        • timilic7T timilic7

                                          @SpecialOne
                                          good evening, thank you for your answer .. then I go through the application and only in the battle I never have the medals. more or less ... and that from the beginning ... and above all even I do not see them, but they never enter my total of medals. Notament my battle won last week ... this evening I went through the Web version after my draw is there everything works .. I have my count and it adds to my total ... I lost a week of medals and especially the end of championship bonus from the previous battle ... thank you all the same for the answer ...

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                                          @timilic7 You didn't lost them. I can assure you that they were added ๐Ÿ‘

                                          "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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