OSM WC 2021 Edition
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an incredible gesture on your part to turn off the coins, I am genuinely surprised and very happy about this
but the identification the best in the play-off system in a game where more than half of the success sometimes depends on randomness ... this is rather unfair
undoubtedly, a strong manager will win, but first of all he will not be the strongest, but the luckiest, and will not receive the same recognition as before -
@specialone said in OSM WC 2021 Edition:
- The last round is a normal league (instead of a Tournament) to do a final check on who's the best manager of OSM in 2021 - **besides the top managers in the Rankings of course.
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Good one there, really cracked me up
As for the knockout system, as guys stated above thats pure luck fest, and you can never know when will a red card (even if you play normal on red ref) or a bad case of luck strike you.
I appreciate the effort you guys are making to include the most managers you can but this simply is not the way for me.
My suggestion is to call up top managers that are ranked globally via medals, everyone has the same chance and it does show who has the best win rate. So lets see who of those glorius top 100 managers (of which most of them are in closed leagues) is trully the best! I'd really like to see how many of them would accept the invitation
- The last round is a normal league (instead of a Tournament) to do a final check on who's the best manager of OSM in 2021 - **besides the top managers in the Rankings of course.
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@markez17
Hi
Good news.. I hope...Hello, having participated several times in this event, I allow myself a few comments on the current proposal:
We are the opposite of what exists in terms of competitions for example NBA, or football world cup .. Or logically we start with a qualification phase in the form of a more or less long championship to end with a final phase with elimination direct.
This avoids two main problems:
An immediate direct elimination can make All the best fall against each other directly, in a single match that is not necessarily representative.
And that leaves too much room to chance .. With a red card in the first round from the 3rd minute for example, on a game where the share of luck is important especially with equivalent teams without recruitment
I would find it more logical to start with qualifying championships. Quit to, to limit the number of participants, only register players with 10/20/30/40/50 seasons of experience or more for example.
And the winners (or 2 first depending on the number) of these championships would participate in the big finals type world cup ac small groups then direct elimination match .. Or direct elimination if simpler ..
Good day
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Winners cup system would be so much more deserving that this proposed luck fest.
How? Well lets say there is a special 24 teams league where you have transfers, trainings and everything, but without boss coins - open to join for everyone with base set experience (lets say 365 games - so that people who played for a full year can only get a chance). Top 4 finishers in that league get a ticket for a Qualification tournament in a form of a winners cup (yes, we have a knockout there, but at least in order to get to tgat knockout you had to show some skill and consistency). Winners of that special tournament competition get a ticket to the OSM World Cup. When we reach that stage.... just hit me, why am I writing this? Nothing will change anyway lol just like nothing is changing with this ridiculous ranking system with pointless medals..
Good luck everyone, you will need it if youre gonna play this system.
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@menagerbl reasons we all miss our bloody MP, this new medals cant be used for WC at all, never participated in the world cup either but would have been fun pushing to try and qualify, ooh well that's that, all the best with this new system however it will be
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I think the idea of ββmaking the tournament available to everyone fairly, including newbies, there are few games that offer the chance for a rookie to compete at the highest level in the short term, and this really motivates players who are starting, not to mention that they can reveal stars that could be hired by the crews in the future....but I also agree that knockout is a lot of luck involved. but playing leagues with only so many players involved would also be hard and great time-consuming. My proposal is to start with a knockout for the not best ranked and most experienced... once you have a good ranking you already enter the second phase in the leagues...
with this system you could give out golden tickets for players are news or less ranked and experienced, 10 newbies for example or any other number, which would qualify in the knockouts for the league phase, or something type it... in the league phase with up to 200 teams, for example , 190 best players, by ranking system and experience, and 10 who advanced through the playoffs in the first phase. this 200 would play 10 leagues of 20 teams each. the champion of each league would to advance and play the final league with the 20 champions of the leagues from the previous phase, to decide who is the grand champion of champions.Just one idea.
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Hi,
No OSM WC again? The classification of medals is not a good and just means of selection?
When do you plan to organize this WC? -
Is there any update? We are now in 2022 I think it is time to organize the new edition of the OSM WC. Since the league system is the only way in which the manager's skill prevails over luck, it would be necessary to start organizing the competition given the potential quantity of managers who will sign up.
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hello staff, still no news for the world championship? the members of the top 100 are waiting impatiently to finally play against a real opponent, or even discover what a loss is!!!!!!
a discovery for them with their admirable winning percentage!!! -
@timilic7 The classification of medals is not a good and just means of selection.
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@alexandraalisdd Obviously!!! We joke about this ridiculous medal ranking
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Well, something that everyone liked and was part of the OSM culture was the
WC
that took place every year, theclassification method being the old points ranking
after the end of this ranking the tournament could not find a fair method to classify the players, since that the current medal system is greatly circumvented by players who are at the top of the rankings when entering leagues full of CPU, or leagues with accounts controlled by him to favor him or even entering leagues with very weak players where he has no difficulty in win the league.As it seems obvious the previous points system used will not return, so how can we classify players for the tournament, taking into account maintaining a certain kind of
quality
within the players that will participate?Well, my proposal for this problem that everyone wants to see solved because it's something that is part of OSM's own culture is to use the app's battles.
How would it work, taking into account the quality detail. Well, if only the app battles wouldn't help to solve the problem, because many would create a new group and battle weaker Crews to get the most points.
Problem that can be solved with the existing divisions of the groups, being given a different bonus taking into account the division where the Crews are.
Something like that:
OSM Division (+25001)
Final league score x 3.5 bonus
Legend Division (17501-25000)
Final league score x 2.5 bonus
World Star Division (10001-17500)
Final league score x 1.75 bonus
Champion Division (5001-10000)
Final league score x 1.0 bonus
Pro Division (2501-5000)
Final league score x 0.5 bonus
Semi-pro Division (1001-2500)
Final league score x 0.25 bonus
Amateur Division (0-1000)
Final league score x 0.1 bonus
This idea is not only aimed at maintaining a historic tournament, but it will also allow the groups themselves to give more importance to the app's battles, which will lead to greater development of the groups, improving the quality of the players.
With this method the WC will have the best OSM players participating, although the higher rankings of the divisions will give more points, the difficulty of scoring in these rankings is higher than in the lower rankings, which raises the quality of the tournament.
The qualification period for the tournament could be the same (6 months), or it could even be increased to a period of 9 months for even new groups that may have a period to move up in rankings to increase their chances of having representatives in the WC .
However, the advantages of this method of guaranteeing the quality of the players participating in the WC, since it is impossible to manipulate the results, the advantage of making the app's battles have an extra meaning, the advantage that everyone can, if they want, be in the WC if they strive, the very development of the groups that will evolve for the better and most importantly maintain a tournament that is part of the culture and history of OSM.
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Ive never played in this tournament because never cared for old ranking just like with new ranking. But looks like GB has abandoned this tournament permanently and it's sad.
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@feelstrikex Sounds good, but not all players play crew battles, so It is unfair to those who do not play them..
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@feelstrikex Congratulations for your work, your explanations and your idea.
Of course, nothing is perfect, but at least it would be representative of the level of the participants. I like your idea, not perfect, but nice and logical.I will never understand how GB can accept that all of its highest representatives in the rankings are either cheaters or players who only play against computers and therefore do not bring money to GB...
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@timilic7 What to expect for a game that has "Hall of Fame" in which there are mainly players who played for less than a full year and are long gone from the game... Hall of Fame is usually prestige and exclusive thing in all professions/sports.. but only on OSM it is a joke..
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So, as a rule, those who are not in groups are either new players or players who intend to do the sad scenes that we have seen to be at the top of the current ranking or they are players who are kind of reforming, because some days they play other days they don't. they play this on the vast majority of players who don't have a group.
In my opinion of course.
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@feelstrikex Yeah, I understand. Its quite hard to find a perfect criteria.. We will see what will the come up with next..