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  • AncelliniA Ancellini

    Terrorism is not a religion, not a culture, not a nationality, It's from everywhere to everywhere, world all should be against hate and murder, even the action by a country not just an organization, stop race, stop hate, be a human being!!

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    SUPERNOVA 8
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    @Ancellini Mohamed Ali Abdin I β™₯ U !

    β€œEducating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
    Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ πŸ’™πŸ€πŸ’™

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    • S SUPERNOVA 8

      @Ancellini Mohamed Ali Abdin I β™₯ U !

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      @SUPERNOVA-8

      Same feeling here Sophie, best friends forever 🌹

      together we're stronger :v_tone3:

      "Unless you have an IQ higher than mine, I am not interested in what you think." -- Dr. Walter Bishop.

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      • AncelliniA Ancellini

        Terrorism is not a religion, not a culture, not a nationality, It's from everywhere to everywhere, world all should be against hate and murder, even the action by a country not just an organization, stop race, stop hate, be a human being!!

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        @Ancellini This is nothing but the truth, unfortunately there are people who provoke hate... hopefully everyone get the right insights about the different situations, sometimes they don't even know what is going on and judge them incorrectly. Media, which are mostly the people itself destroys everything. They only think of themself...

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        • PappyWappie_NLP PappyWappie_NL

          @Ancellini This is nothing but the truth, unfortunately there are people who provoke hate... hopefully everyone get the right insights about the different situations, sometimes they don't even know what is going on and judge them incorrectly. Media, which are mostly the people itself destroys everything. They only think of themself...

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          @Geert-van-h._NL
          Exactly what i mean, media just want to make money & dont know that judging other religions or nationalities maybe a reason of more hate and violence or race (words may kill), the feeling of some people in Arabic or Islamic world when listening to news, and hearing expressions like (Islamics or Muslim terrorists ) (Arabic terrorists) the situation mostly for young guys not wise enough is like this if you know the famous Al Pacino movie :

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          Most people everywhere are different, there is good guys and bad guys, criminals and not , maybe you came this world in different nationality or a religion, so what is the situation now?! we just have to like our humanity and stop hurting others!

          Some words you dont care enough, may create a new terrorists to your world, thats why we must always care enough about each others, politicians or media representatives!!

          "Unless you have an IQ higher than mine, I am not interested in what you think." -- Dr. Walter Bishop.

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            @Mr-Don-Revie These are the last people we need! Adding fuel to the fire wont help :rolling_eyes:

            He expanded the definition of 'us', and shrunk the definition of 'them'

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            • AncelliniA Ancellini

              @Geert-van-h._NL
              Exactly what i mean, media just want to make money & dont know that judging other religions or nationalities maybe a reason of more hate and violence or race (words may kill), the feeling of some people in Arabic or Islamic world when listening to news, and hearing expressions like (Islamics or Muslim terrorists ) (Arabic terrorists) the situation mostly for young guys not wise enough is like this if you know the famous Al Pacino movie :

              alt text

              Most people everywhere are different, there is good guys and bad guys, criminals and not , maybe you came this world in different nationality or a religion, so what is the situation now?! we just have to like our humanity and stop hurting others!

              Some words you dont care enough, may create a new terrorists to your world, thats why we must always care enough about each others, politicians or media representatives!!

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              @Ancellini Well, since there are clearly a lot of moderate muslims there is indeed absolutely no reason to hate anyone for the fact that he/she is muslim. The muslims I know are some of the nicest people you will ever meet.

              On the other hand, we should not deny the fact that the quran also contains a lot of elements that make the islam not only a religion, but also a political ideology, such as surah 8 verse 6 ''Prepare for them whatever force you are able of gathering, to strike terror in the hearts of the enemies of allah''. Muslim fundamentalists act on these things.

              I have nothing against muslims, but if we allow political correctness to deny the source of these actions and just pretend that there is nothing we can do about terroristic attacks because anyone could commit them we will never stop them.

              <3 Ajax

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              • SIRclitjeslikker_NLS SIRclitjeslikker_NL

                @Ancellini Well, since there are clearly a lot of moderate muslims there is indeed absolutely no reason to hate anyone for the fact that he/she is muslim. The muslims I know are some of the nicest people you will ever meet.

                On the other hand, we should not deny the fact that the quran also contains a lot of elements that make the islam not only a religion, but also a political ideology, such as surah 8 verse 6 ''Prepare for them whatever force you are able of gathering, to strike terror in the hearts of the enemies of allah''. Muslim fundamentalists act on these things.

                I have nothing against muslims, but if we allow political correctness to deny the source of these actions and just pretend that there is nothing we can do about terroristic attacks because anyone could commit them we will never stop them.

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                @SIRclitjeslikker_NL

                Actually these sentences said in different situations and no religion mean to kill the others or make th whole world slaves same like ""But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over themβ€”bring them here and kill them in front of me.’” Luke 19:27, and i am sure this all was depending in several situations not order to kill people, you can read another sentences if try to like:

                Meanwhile, in this world, even deniers have freedom in matters of religion. As the Quran (109:6) says:

                Say, β€˜[…] You have your religion and I have mine.’

                The deniers also have freedom of action in this world, as the Quran (42:15) says:

                β€˜[…]we are responsible for what we do and you are responsible for what you do […]’

                Further, the Quran (6:108) forbids the believers from abusing deities worshipped by others:

                Do not revile those [beings] whom they invoke instead of God, lest they, in their hostility, revile God out of ignorance.

                So there is no hate or orders to fight or kill or take the whole world or terrorizing others in any religion my friend, just because of some words said in some situations its not headlines or rules, just was several old cases!!

                Thats why no one should criminalize nationality or religion before reading every thing about it, we can stop at this point please, because we are in a game forums not political or religious forums and not all will understand what we are talking about in a nice way like we are doing now, thanks & good luck all people! πŸ˜„

                "Unless you have an IQ higher than mine, I am not interested in what you think." -- Dr. Walter Bishop.

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                • AncelliniA Ancellini

                  @SIRclitjeslikker_NL

                  Actually these sentences said in different situations and no religion mean to kill the others or make th whole world slaves same like ""But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over themβ€”bring them here and kill them in front of me.’” Luke 19:27, and i am sure this all was depending in several situations not order to kill people, you can read another sentences if try to like:

                  Meanwhile, in this world, even deniers have freedom in matters of religion. As the Quran (109:6) says:

                  Say, β€˜[…] You have your religion and I have mine.’

                  The deniers also have freedom of action in this world, as the Quran (42:15) says:

                  β€˜[…]we are responsible for what we do and you are responsible for what you do […]’

                  Further, the Quran (6:108) forbids the believers from abusing deities worshipped by others:

                  Do not revile those [beings] whom they invoke instead of God, lest they, in their hostility, revile God out of ignorance.

                  So there is no hate or orders to fight or kill or take the whole world or terrorizing others in any religion my friend, just because of some words said in some situations its not headlines or rules, just was several old cases!!

                  Thats why no one should criminalize nationality or religion before reading every thing about it, we can stop at this point please, because we are in a game forums not political or religious forums and not all will understand what we are talking about in a nice way like we are doing now, thanks & good luck all people! πŸ˜„

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                  @Ancellini Correction : I Adore You :heart_exclamation:

                  β€œEducating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
                  Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ πŸ’™πŸ€πŸ’™

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                    @Ancellini Correction : I Adore You :heart_exclamation:

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                    @SUPERNOVA-8

                    U2 the band πŸ˜› , thanks dear heart πŸ˜„ 🌹

                    "Unless you have an IQ higher than mine, I am not interested in what you think." -- Dr. Walter Bishop.

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                    • AncelliniA Ancellini

                      @Geert-van-h._NL
                      Exactly what i mean, media just want to make money & dont know that judging other religions or nationalities maybe a reason of more hate and violence or race (words may kill), the feeling of some people in Arabic or Islamic world when listening to news, and hearing expressions like (Islamics or Muslim terrorists ) (Arabic terrorists) the situation mostly for young guys not wise enough is like this if you know the famous Al Pacino movie :

                      alt text

                      Most people everywhere are different, there is good guys and bad guys, criminals and not , maybe you came this world in different nationality or a religion, so what is the situation now?! we just have to like our humanity and stop hurting others!

                      Some words you dont care enough, may create a new terrorists to your world, thats why we must always care enough about each others, politicians or media representatives!!

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                      @Ancellini Unfortunately, the people who provoke hate, keeps the media intact, they make sure media can continue their way to make big money. People do not realize what they are doing by saying their thoughts, a big point indeed. Thrumph is a tough businessman, who doesn't care about other people, only his money, his fortune. That's exactly what most people also want... 😞

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                      • AncelliniA Ancellini

                        @SIRclitjeslikker_NL

                        Actually these sentences said in different situations and no religion mean to kill the others or make th whole world slaves same like ""But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over themβ€”bring them here and kill them in front of me.’” Luke 19:27, and i am sure this all was depending in several situations not order to kill people, you can read another sentences if try to like:

                        Meanwhile, in this world, even deniers have freedom in matters of religion. As the Quran (109:6) says:

                        Say, β€˜[…] You have your religion and I have mine.’

                        The deniers also have freedom of action in this world, as the Quran (42:15) says:

                        β€˜[…]we are responsible for what we do and you are responsible for what you do […]’

                        Further, the Quran (6:108) forbids the believers from abusing deities worshipped by others:

                        Do not revile those [beings] whom they invoke instead of God, lest they, in their hostility, revile God out of ignorance.

                        So there is no hate or orders to fight or kill or take the whole world or terrorizing others in any religion my friend, just because of some words said in some situations its not headlines or rules, just was several old cases!!

                        Thats why no one should criminalize nationality or religion before reading every thing about it, we can stop at this point please, because we are in a game forums not political or religious forums and not all will understand what we are talking about in a nice way like we are doing now, thanks & good luck all people! πŸ˜„

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                        @Ancellini said in London terrorist attack:

                        Thats why no one should criminalize nationality or religion before reading every thing about it, we can stop at this point please, because we are in a game forums not political or religious forums and not all will understand what we are talking about in a nice way like we are doing now, thanks & good luck all people!

                        Taken right out of my mouth my friend. Thank you so much! Peace & harmony people. πŸ™‚
                        At least within our forum , if not in the whole wide world. ❀ :peace:

                        β€œEducating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
                        Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ πŸ’™πŸ€πŸ’™

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                          Feeling sorry to hear that ! Yesterday in Egypt one person was killed and four others were injured and they were muslims ! In a terrorist attack
                          On the whole, terrorism did not differentiate between Muslims or others
                          I wish the peace for all Countries ❀

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                          • mr.afrotoM mr.afroto

                            Feeling sorry to hear that ! Yesterday in Egypt one person was killed and four others were injured and they were muslims ! In a terrorist attack
                            On the whole, terrorism did not differentiate between Muslims or others
                            I wish the peace for all Countries ❀

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                            Karlo anchiloti madrid
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                            Oh God, we are far away from the terrorist attack 😞

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                              Well, I find the most interesting (yet terrifying) thing about Islam its dualistic nature.

                              First of all, Muhammed wrote down in the Quran what Allah told him to trough his angel Djibril. Therefore, everything in the Quran is the word of Allah.

                              Prophet Muhammed started the Islam in Mecca, where he preached for 13 years and convinced 150 people to become Muslim. He wrote a book there, the Meccan Quran, which is rather peaceful and tolerant towards kafirs (non-Muslims).

                              Once he was banned from Mecca and went to Medina, he became a warlord, conquered the majority of the Arab world and subjugated 100.000 people to Islam in around 9 years. The book that he wrote there, the Meddinan Quran, is filled with hatred towards kafirs. For example, 17% of the text of the Meddinan Quran is dedicated to Jew-hatred as compared to 7% of the text of Mein Kampf, according to the count of Dr. Bill Warner.

                              What follows hereof is that both parts of the Quran contradict each other, but at the same time both contain the words of Allah and therefore are both true.

                              On the one hand, this means that I cannot hate anyone for being Muslim. Someone can call him/herself Muslim, go to a mosque, wear a headscarf, prefer the more peaceful Meccan interpretation and be one of the most amazing persons you will ever meet.

                              At the same time though, this means that the (Meddinan) islam also contains a lot of theological problems which are not compatible with western societies.

                              <3 Ajax

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