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  • Daniele BenjiaminD Offline
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    Daniele Benjiamin
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    @vladimir-dani said in OSM WC 2018 Edition:

    OSM tournament depends o

    i think official OSM tournaments depend on opinion of organizers, if 1 person organizes such a tournament like this (as past editions), and there isn't the opportunity to get help from other managers for various reason, we must accept it

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      Hey bosses, OSM World Championship is back with it's 2018 edition!

      • What is OSM World Championship?

      OSM World Championship is an official event organized by the OSM staff for the outstanding managers in this game, based on the total number of manager points they earned during a set period. No cheaters or managers with forum bans will be allowed to join the competition and play in it, whether they were found guilty during the qualification period, after it, or during the World Championship itself.

      OSM World Championship format

      • 144 managers (including winners of last edition that won't need to qualify for it)

      • 3 rounds

        • Round 1: 12 leagues of 12 managers each » Top 4 managers from each league go through to Round 2
        • Round 2: 4 leagues of 12 managers each » Top 3 managers from each league go through to Round 3
        • Round 3: 1 league of 12 managers » The winner of the league is the OSM World Champion 2017.
      • Special Leagues for each round (No BCs compensation, No training camps, No Secret trainings neither transfers. Remaining features like friendlies are up to each manager to decide how many they do per round)

      • How to get a place in OSM World Championship?
      • Only leagues with a minimum of 14 matches played on it will be taken into account.
      • Qualification period will be between 1st December 2017 and 31st May 2018, but only leagues that finish from 14th December onwards will be taken into account.
      • How to know if I have a place in OSM World Championship?
      • You will receive by PM your invitation to accept or decline it. This edition, from Wednesday 13th to Wednesday 20th June you will receive your invitation and you'll have until next Wednesday, 27th June, to accept or decline it.
      • You can receive an invitation to get a sub place, we all know that every year some users decide to decline their place or simply they don't say nothing about. If you are a subs, as soon as you can fill a free place we will let you know.
      • I get a place in OSM World Championship, what must I know?
      • OSM WC is an individual competition, you must play for yourself and respect all OSM rules. We must have always fair play and don't let win someone only because is your crewmate, your friend, etc.
      • 1st round, if we don't have any problem, will begin Tuesday, 3rd July, and you must have a free slot at least one day before league have been created.
      • We need league moderators to send invitations, if you get a place and are able to do it just let us know by PM to take it into consideration.
      • I think that i deserve a place this edition, what can I do?
      • If you didn't receive an invitation but you are sure that you get enough points, you can ask me ( @Markez17 ) by PM about it. Be sure that you recolect more than 30.000 manager points, didn't receive a ban or suspension and you follow all OSM rules. We will see again your case and say why you don't get a place.
      • If you ask about it but you know perfectly why you don't get and only want to make troubles... Think about it two times before do that, you can be punished for it!

      And for finish, think that:

      • Don't read rules don't justify that you don't follow them.
      • OSM WC organization will take the best solution if something not expected happens in OSM, keep calm and ask before be pesimistic!

      Regards and have fun,
      OSM WC organization

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      General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
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        Before I write few things I must say I won't aprove some changes because my ass is safe. I would write the same if i had 50.000 or 100.000 MP's. With 34k you have to admit I'm not out of the race, and tbh I'don't care for this competition anymore. Before 3-4 years it was a big deal for me, but after I saw all the things in last few years now a regular league on my main account is more important to me. I played in 3 OSM WC leagues, so my goal to participate in the WC is achieved.

        Reasons for reducing the number of participiants:
        Organizer is bothered to put few more hours out of 365 days in checking some accounts. What an explanation. Other guys don't have real life. Just the organizer.
        If he is cheerful - you will participate, if not - bad luck for you, wait 1 more year for a new chance.
        Mate if u don't have time then retire, go have some cold beer on the beach, leave this crap...or guess what? Find 1 or 2 guys to help you. Simple as that.
        Game with more than 5.000.000 (active players) potential participiants depends on 1 guy. This is one heck of a story! lol
        Other reason: MAYBE a higher competitive level...MAYBE...and less problems.
        How that? I saw ''problems'' appearead 3 times in the FINAL and that's a locig thing because everyone wants to be the WorldChampion. So doesen't matter if you have 800 participiants or 50 if a problem appear it will probably appear in a final of 12 players.

        Becuase one reason or another in the last years there were just issues and controversy about the WC. I'm wondering there are still people who are much interested in this competition...

        GOOD LUCK TO ALL PARTICIPIANTS! You will need strong nerves. 🙂

        OSM World Champion 2019&2020/WNT Winner 17/18
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          Don't forget when the qualification period was changed... And we all see so much complainings and disagree about that. After that, nobody talks about it.

          Maybe if OSM WC 2019 has 144 places again, nobody complain with that. I don't know if i will organize it but, when 2018 edition reach the end i'm open to listen suggestions about minor or major changes to improve the competition 🙂

          PS: I'm an old & hardcore user too!

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          General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
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            Don't forget when the qualification period was changed... And we all see so much complainings and disagree about that. After that, nobody talks about it.

            Maybe if OSM WC 2019 has 144 places again, nobody complain with that. I don't know if i will organize it but, when 2018 edition reach the end i'm open to listen suggestions about minor or major changes to improve the competition 🙂

            PS: I'm an old & hardcore user too!

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            rafael 1974
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            @markez17 I agree with all of you up to some extent. First of all, I know that you are busy and this must surely be a hard task to deal with such an extent number of players, leagues, etc. The best would be to share the task with some more mods, mainly from other nationalities so that problems can be solved more easily. Neither everybody speaks English, nor yours is perfect (I hope you dont mind me telling you so). From my experience many managers use the translators devices available on the internet and if there are mistakes the translator doesnt work properly and it may lead to misunderstandings. Hence, although it is not my task I offer to help you with English so that you can communicate exactly what you really intend to say.

            I understand other managers who feel fooled or deceived for the change in the ratio and now feel excluded from their dreams. There are many who have truly fought until the very last moment to reach the magical 30k points which would thus have taken them to their long-awaited WC. Speaking of fairness at this point seems to be out of any reason. I agree with you, Markez, in the sense that this task really may get to be out of your control if you accept more people than you can afford. However, accepting 192 is manageable if you then reduce the number of contestants per league who go into the following round. Anyway, the organizer is the one who sets the rules so you have my firm support at this point.

            For successive years I would be clearer in advance. I would open a round for suggestions at the end of this WC so that as many ideas as possible would be brainstormed. Feel free to put the limits at any moment of the period but in case it were possible, tell the sooner the possible.

            Thank you

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              I read of course all your messages but sorry, it's always the same thing and my response is similar always... I understand you all about your position and viewpoint, some things are more or less logical and others are only lack of information about how others editions worked!
              It's funny to talk about compare OSM WC and Russia WC... Russia WC doesn't have a lot of cheaters! 🙂

              When i made first topic post (November '17) i was sure that i will set OSM WC 2018 places number when i got the provisional WC list. You can give thanks to all users that can't respect OSM rules but i'm sure that you all are happier users if you come to a public topic and talk about a bad organization.

              Maybe you all can try to organize WC 2019, i have pairs of boot for everyone that wants to put in my situation! Until then, i will continue sending invitations to those users that get a place.

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                Don't forget when the qualification period was changed... And we all see so much complainings and disagree about that. After that, nobody talks about it.

                Maybe if OSM WC 2019 has 144 places again, nobody complain with that. I don't know if i will organize it but, when 2018 edition reach the end i'm open to listen suggestions about minor or major changes to improve the competition 🙂

                PS: I'm an old & hardcore user too!

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                @markez17 said in OSM WC 2018 Edition:

                Don't forget when the qualification period was changed... And we all see so much complainings and disagree about that. After that, nobody talks about it.

                Maybe if OSM WC 2019 has 144 places again, nobody complain with that. I don't know if i will organize it but, when 2018 edition reach the end i'm open to listen suggestions about minor or major changes to improve the competition 🙂

                PS: I'm an old & hardcore user too!

                Mate, don't get confused about the fear of a ban with a lack of complaining.
                Where a ban means a goodbye to the WC.

                "Everything you've ever seen was just a mirror."

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                  From Wednesday until today, i have been done the followings things about OSM WC:

                  • Teams updated.
                  • All 144 users got an invitation, around 110 already reply and all of them accept it!
                  • Preparing everything about 1st round stage.
                  • Lock some cheaters accounts found during WC list checking.

                  Maybe today i will send messages to some users that got a reserve place. If i still have free time, i will continue punishing some cheaters!

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                  General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
                  https://www.twitch.tv/MMarquez92

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                    @Markez17 is there no one can help you between CMs?

                    "Everything you've ever seen was just a mirror."

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                      @Markez17 is there no one can help you between CMs?

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                      @sirfabiocanà said in OSM WC 2018 Edition:

                      @Markez17 is there no one can help you between CMs?

                      Why this question now? The most difficult thing is already done, i made the work that i planned to have on 22/06 in three days more or less. Now i have five "free" days 🙂

                      Thank you for take care of me but i'm fine!

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                      General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
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                        @markez17 said in OSM WC 2018 Edition:

                        @sirfabiocanà said in OSM WC 2018 Edition:

                        @Markez17 is there no one can help you between CMs?

                        Why this question now? The most difficult thing is already done, i made the work that i planned to have on 22/06 in three days more or less. Now i have five "free" days 🙂

                        Thank you for take care of me but i'm fine!

                        I talk just about "the most difficult thing". The previous EM simply asked for a help from CMs and every year there was a team of 3-4 guys who did this hard work.
                        In this way, his life was "saved", as number of partecipants.

                        BTW, was only a curiosity.

                        May be a great competition!

                        "Everything you've ever seen was just a mirror."

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                          Good luck all!!

                          He expanded the definition of 'us', and shrunk the definition of 'them'

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                            • 20 qualified managers didn't give reply yet. (Deadline - Wednesday 27th)
                            • 22 of 26 reserves already replied me and are agree to be part of this WC edition if finally they got a free place.
                              I'm thinking about send 5-10 more PM to the next reserves in the list.

                            I will public 1st stage groups next Thursday, 28th June and don't forget that we need at least 12 potential moderators to send invitations the day that leagues will be created.
                            Without moderators, we can't play this competition so feel free to send me a private message and let me know if you can help to make it possible as soon as possible 🙂

                            No league moderator before 2nd July = League deleted and all 12 managers will be disqualified!

                            ES Mod - (19/05/12 - 31/01/13) || ES Staff - (31/01/13 - 31/03/15) || Spanish CM - (01/04/15 - 24/05/16)
                            General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
                            https://www.twitch.tv/MMarquez92

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                              #66

                              1st Stage Draw

                              Group 1 (League moderator: @RuiSilenoz)

                              RuiSilenoz
                              giuxeppe87
                              yaylaronie
                              Damiś27
                              Sebabiano
                              gallettoarrogante
                              Michy_69
                              karsaij
                              ShoarmaDude17
                              mahmood sahwan
                              IovaCodrutLiv
                              sbrugio85

                              Group 2 (League moderator: @Daniele-Benjiamin)

                              karakanim
                              zardiRussia
                              Yozora17
                              Alessandro 1973
                              Vitor Pessa
                              alex1963
                              CleveLand23
                              Wenger Wise
                              nalimnalim
                              سوما39
                              Daniele Benjiamin
                              salvociri

                              Group 3 (League moderator: @leucostin)

                              luigi74
                              Inmate002
                              IoanMaties
                              MontellaValero
                              zieCR7
                              stefu marius
                              uzay ozer
                              leucostin
                              kikke teams
                              Skeggiati
                              danoct
                              Daredevil86

                              Group 4 (League moderator: @Maio66)

                              F.S.M.0.13
                              Profezor
                              AlexRinghio
                              Guiz90
                              taLion xD
                              Ottone1900
                              Pizzi_77
                              Maio66
                              bollardsau
                              SavicBranko
                              Luis Lozoya Franco
                              zannino antonio

                              Group 5 (League moderator: @Lirind)

                              Hestera
                              German Chester
                              Alvaro Barros
                              paloma1965
                              Lirind
                              Megatron Optimus Prime
                              SirFabioCanà
                              Andrei_jardel
                              robbyc76
                              MortaraG.
                              alvarorr_98
                              rubinhosantana

                              Group 6 (League moderator: @Marjan-F.)

                              sistematikci
                              Marjan F.
                              manhay
                              cutterXL
                              Alex Demartin
                              Северная Пальмира
                              m.rebizant
                              helderfutclub
                              jorgecasla
                              richeartselcuk_sen
                              Mauricio280888
                              nexium.coco

                              Group 7 (League moderator: @ALİ-KOÇ-61)

                              ALİ KOÇ 61
                              CnytAkn
                              VlaD-I
                              Cosmindaniel86
                              Mano Meneses.
                              ADEL1982
                              Cirujeanding
                              dariomilan92
                              aymakmm
                              faruk061
                              dvd1989
                              SRACELLO

                              Group 8 (League moderator: @milito6969)

                              NeverBackDown 2oo9
                              vince13carter
                              IMarin
                              milito6969
                              طــــــــــرزان
                              AndreiFM
                              andy96star
                              abo 3lawi [S1]
                              luck270986
                              IammaCcezzionale
                              PROF.CONSY
                              مدرب من عصر تاني

                              Group 9 (League moderator: @A-touch-of-magic)

                              MustafaKaya19o5
                              Ray Draco76
                              MotaNelu
                              YusuF ÇİRCİ
                              Athwine
                              Mickytuli
                              numanvural
                              kemalcagri43
                              sisnar
                              Jwheoene
                              dario el vicio
                              A touch of magic

                              Group 10 (League moderator: @raul_alessio)

                              milito1393
                              DarylDixon31
                              josejay1914
                              Hardinero
                              Paulo Filipe Cunha
                              nelsonm91
                              THE_GREAT_GATSBY
                              Bodea Tudor
                              JOAKIN FLORENTIN 10
                              raul_alessio
                              timilic7
                              Nunoesteves77

                              Group 11 (League moderator: @boskovice)

                              scorzinho
                              sULtAn çER
                              sg_gaz
                              Nickreds
                              YnsKya08
                              Sir DRibeiro
                              maurinio75
                              ArmidoCario
                              alex11stefan
                              boskovice
                              cristi10ab
                              Byku Duma Warmii

                              Group 12 (League moderator: @FGORDO)

                              FCTrabZonLu
                              Blondu C10
                              xcalin
                              tankkaplani
                              J.Shephard
                              andresoke
                              The Jocker_10
                              FGORDO
                              huzur8080
                              merthan10
                              хуан гаридо
                              Alnomesi

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                                WHAT HAPPEN NOW?

                                Between today and tomorrow, I will send one PM to each participant with his/her group information and 1st stage beggining date, have a free slot 2nd July as maximum, etc.

                                Each league moderator will receive another message about slot that they will use to play the league, team that they want to have and other useful data about their duty!

                                Don't forget that:

                                • We have some subs and they will replace someone that don't enter in the league after 48 hours.
                                • If you received some days ago the message to be part of WC 2018 and you didn't response, you lose your place! You can answer it now and if you was in the 144 first, I can accept you as reserve but all subs that we already have will go before you.

                                I'm working in WC during this week and prepare everything to not have any problem... I hope it deserves and you all make me happy!
                                Now prepare your mind to play and try to be the OSM manager 🙂

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                                    a real pleasure to deal with the champion in charge @RuiSilenoz ,good luck to all!

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                                      Hi @Markez17

                                      Thnx for the PM but I have a question and I'll write here:

                                      In which hour the league will be created?

                                      "Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein | "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle” - Albert Einstein | "Learning by making mistakes and not duplicating them is what life is about." - Lindsay Fox | "Everyone makes mistakes in life, but that doesn’t mean they have to pay for them for the rest of their life."

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                                        Hi @Markez17

                                        Thnx for the PM but I have a question and I'll write here:

                                        In which hour the league will be created?

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                                        @lirind said in OSM WC 2018 Edition:

                                        Hi @Markez17

                                        Thnx for the PM but I have a question and I'll write here:

                                        In which hour the league will be created?

                                        Normally, league will be created during morning. Don't worry about it, as soon as leagues are created, i will let you know 🙂

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                                        General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
                                        https://www.twitch.tv/MMarquez92

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                                          @lirind said in OSM WC 2018 Edition:

                                          Hi @Markez17

                                          Thnx for the PM but I have a question and I'll write here:

                                          In which hour the league will be created?

                                          Normally, league will be created during morning. Don't worry about it, as soon as leagues are created, i will let you know 🙂

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                                          @markez17 no I'm not worrying for that. On Tuesday I have two exams and for this I asked for the time.

                                          "Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein | "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle” - Albert Einstein | "Learning by making mistakes and not duplicating them is what life is about." - Lindsay Fox | "Everyone makes mistakes in life, but that doesn’t mean they have to pay for them for the rest of their life."

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