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    Markez17
    Spanish Users
    wrote on last edited by
    #56

    Good morning!

    Just some points to clarify more the situation:

    • 1st list seems to get points recollected from 1/12/2019 to 31/05/2020, something wrong. At first point, I think about keep wroking with the list and make minor changes.
    • I can't get the WC manager list without help, Gamebasics must provide me always.
    • Looking that some managers weren't agree (I understand it) and after receive the correct list, with points from 14/12/2019 to 31/05/2020, I spend all my time to compare both list, fix it and have the list 100% checked and send messages to all managers affected and new entries. (208 private messages if you want to know the number)

    At this moment, everything is fine but some people keep pushing me and criticizing because they (Or a friend) don't have a place. We have the correct list, we have the same WC period and everyone wants to play but we have limited places.
    Please, think twice before spamming or insulting me because I organize events for all of you, I don't win nothing with it and each time I feel I'm wasting my time because nobody recognize the effort and they think can do it better but I don't see no one prove it.

    PS: Yes, I read WC local topics in different communities too πŸ™‚

    ES Mod - (19/05/12 - 31/01/13) || ES Staff - (31/01/13 - 31/03/15) || Spanish CM - (01/04/15 - 24/05/16)
    General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
    https://www.twitch.tv/MMarquez92

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    • M Markez17

      Good morning!

      Just some points to clarify more the situation:

      • 1st list seems to get points recollected from 1/12/2019 to 31/05/2020, something wrong. At first point, I think about keep wroking with the list and make minor changes.
      • I can't get the WC manager list without help, Gamebasics must provide me always.
      • Looking that some managers weren't agree (I understand it) and after receive the correct list, with points from 14/12/2019 to 31/05/2020, I spend all my time to compare both list, fix it and have the list 100% checked and send messages to all managers affected and new entries. (208 private messages if you want to know the number)

      At this moment, everything is fine but some people keep pushing me and criticizing because they (Or a friend) don't have a place. We have the correct list, we have the same WC period and everyone wants to play but we have limited places.
      Please, think twice before spamming or insulting me because I organize events for all of you, I don't win nothing with it and each time I feel I'm wasting my time because nobody recognize the effort and they think can do it better but I don't see no one prove it.

      PS: Yes, I read WC local topics in different communities too πŸ™‚

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      giuxeppe87
      Italian Users
      wrote on last edited by
      #57

      @Markez17 hello manuel, every year you do a great job .. and i know the effort it takes behind a tournament! it is exhausting. a "little mistake / inattention" (which is human!) cannot judge your punctuality and professionalism.
      good job and we can't wait to start!

      Moderator "Quei bravi ragazzi and QBR College"
      Co-Moderator Union of Supremes
      C.T Italian National 2018-2021 (Champions Euro 2018)
      Staff Moderator Italian 2018-2021
      3rd in the world (Wcc 2018 - QBR)

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      • M Markez17

        Good morning!

        Just some points to clarify more the situation:

        • 1st list seems to get points recollected from 1/12/2019 to 31/05/2020, something wrong. At first point, I think about keep wroking with the list and make minor changes.
        • I can't get the WC manager list without help, Gamebasics must provide me always.
        • Looking that some managers weren't agree (I understand it) and after receive the correct list, with points from 14/12/2019 to 31/05/2020, I spend all my time to compare both list, fix it and have the list 100% checked and send messages to all managers affected and new entries. (208 private messages if you want to know the number)

        At this moment, everything is fine but some people keep pushing me and criticizing because they (Or a friend) don't have a place. We have the correct list, we have the same WC period and everyone wants to play but we have limited places.
        Please, think twice before spamming or insulting me because I organize events for all of you, I don't win nothing with it and each time I feel I'm wasting my time because nobody recognize the effort and they think can do it better but I don't see no one prove it.

        PS: Yes, I read WC local topics in different communities too πŸ™‚

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        Daniele Benjiamin
        Community Manager
        wrote on last edited by
        #58

        @Markez17 said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

        PS: Yes, I read WC local topics in different communities too

        πŸ‘€ πŸ‘€ πŸ‘€ πŸ‘€ πŸ‘€ πŸ‘€ πŸ‘€ πŸ˜› πŸ˜› πŸ˜› πŸ˜› πŸ˜›

        Forum Moderator since 06/2017 - Staff Support since 11/2017 (18401 emails, 15269 cheater reports) - Italian Community Manager since 9/11/2021
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        • wrathfuloneW Offline
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          wrathfulone
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          #59

          First of all, I got a message from Markez17 that I got a place to play World Cup 2020. One day later I got message from him that "I got a place in WC with a wrong list provided.
          After get the correct one and check differences... I lose my place and I am a sub now."

          So when I calculate again my manager points on my first slot :

          Between 1th December and 31st May

          I have 44.365 points

          Between 14th December and 31st May

          I have 37.350 points.

          As I know, minimum requirements to qualify was 35.000 manager points. How come did I lost my place and I am in sub position now ? Can you please explain me ? @Markez17

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          • wrathfuloneW wrathfulone

            First of all, I got a message from Markez17 that I got a place to play World Cup 2020. One day later I got message from him that "I got a place in WC with a wrong list provided.
            After get the correct one and check differences... I lose my place and I am a sub now."

            So when I calculate again my manager points on my first slot :

            Between 1th December and 31st May

            I have 44.365 points

            Between 14th December and 31st May

            I have 37.350 points.

            As I know, minimum requirements to qualify was 35.000 manager points. How come did I lost my place and I am in sub position now ? Can you please explain me ? @Markez17

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            Markez17
            Spanish Users
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            @wrathfulone said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

            As I know, minimum requirements to qualify was 35.000 manager points. How come did I lost my place and I am in sub position now ? Can you please explain me ? @Markez17

            You are not into the 156 first managers with those points between 14/12/2019 and 31/05/2020.
            Minimum manager points to qualify in a WC edition depends of others managers and points they got in the same period.

            ES Mod - (19/05/12 - 31/01/13) || ES Staff - (31/01/13 - 31/03/15) || Spanish CM - (01/04/15 - 24/05/16)
            General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
            https://www.twitch.tv/MMarquez92

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              wrathfulone
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              #61

              Alright, did not know the minimum manager points to qualify depends on others managers's points. As you mentioned earlier, I thought minimum was the 35.000 points.

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              • wrathfuloneW wrathfulone

                Alright, did not know the minimum manager points to qualify depends on others managers's points. As you mentioned earlier, I thought minimum was the 35.000 points.

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                raul_alessio
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                #62

                @wrathfulone Each year this minimum has increased because more managers got aware of this competition and the qualifying period so people are calculating better their finishing dates of the leagues. A few years ago I qualified to the WC with only 25-28k points, now with 37k we both are substitutions. Hopefully we will get there! πŸ™‚

                @Markez17 - please ignore the mean or the not very well educated people who don't understand your voluntary effort and the fact that you received a wrong list from the beginning. I think that people who don't understand that and continue to be mean should be excluded from the list because they are not fair-play and so they don't deserve to be in the competition.
                Your work is really appreciated Manuel! 🎩 #hatsoff

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                • raul_alessioR raul_alessio

                  @wrathfulone Each year this minimum has increased because more managers got aware of this competition and the qualifying period so people are calculating better their finishing dates of the leagues. A few years ago I qualified to the WC with only 25-28k points, now with 37k we both are substitutions. Hopefully we will get there! πŸ™‚

                  @Markez17 - please ignore the mean or the not very well educated people who don't understand your voluntary effort and the fact that you received a wrong list from the beginning. I think that people who don't understand that and continue to be mean should be excluded from the list because they are not fair-play and so they don't deserve to be in the competition.
                  Your work is really appreciated Manuel! 🎩 #hatsoff

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                  SpecialOne
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #63

                  @raul_alessio said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

                  ..... I think that people who don't understand that and continue to be mean should be excluded from the list.....

                  .... now with 37k we both are substitutions.....

                  It looks to me that you just want to get your place on the competition πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

                  "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                  • raul_alessioR raul_alessio

                    @wrathfulone Each year this minimum has increased because more managers got aware of this competition and the qualifying period so people are calculating better their finishing dates of the leagues. A few years ago I qualified to the WC with only 25-28k points, now with 37k we both are substitutions. Hopefully we will get there! πŸ™‚

                    @Markez17 - please ignore the mean or the not very well educated people who don't understand your voluntary effort and the fact that you received a wrong list from the beginning. I think that people who don't understand that and continue to be mean should be excluded from the list because they are not fair-play and so they don't deserve to be in the competition.
                    Your work is really appreciated Manuel! 🎩 #hatsoff

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                    wrathfulone
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #64

                    @raul_alessio Hopefully ! πŸ™‚

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                    • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                      @raul_alessio said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

                      ..... I think that people who don't understand that and continue to be mean should be excluded from the list.....

                      .... now with 37k we both are substitutions.....

                      It looks to me that you just want to get your place on the competition πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

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                      raul_alessio
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                      #65

                      @SpecialOne I would love to play especially because I missed the last two years I believe, but no...that's not why I said that.

                      In the last 6 years I've been organizing or at least helped organize all Romanian competitions so I know how it feels like to be criticized without a real reason.

                      Manuel is doing a fantastic job and those who don't see it or understand that, don't really deserve to be among the worlds best players. True characters are shown in difficult moments like these!

                      It's like VAR support in football. You may have scored, but if the camera shows it wasn't correct (like the first list Manuel received), you have to accept the cancellation with dignity. Yes, we feel sorry for you, but we can't go on with a mistake.

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                      • raul_alessioR raul_alessio

                        @SpecialOne I would love to play especially because I missed the last two years I believe, but no...that's not why I said that.

                        In the last 6 years I've been organizing or at least helped organize all Romanian competitions so I know how it feels like to be criticized without a real reason.

                        Manuel is doing a fantastic job and those who don't see it or understand that, don't really deserve to be among the worlds best players. True characters are shown in difficult moments like these!

                        It's like VAR support in football. You may have scored, but if the camera shows it wasn't correct (like the first list Manuel received), you have to accept the cancellation with dignity. Yes, we feel sorry for you, but we can't go on with a mistake.

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                        SpecialOne
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #66

                        @raul_alessio I know, was just teasing you.

                        In fact I'm the one to blame for the wrong list. Completely forgot to adjust the filter to 14th December.

                        I've picked 4/5 random users from the list and manually checked the totals, they matched. all fine. I didn't selected anyone with leagues that ended before 14th.

                        "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                        • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                          @raul_alessio I know, was just teasing you.

                          In fact I'm the one to blame for the wrong list. Completely forgot to adjust the filter to 14th December.

                          I've picked 4/5 random users from the list and manually checked the totals, they matched. all fine. I didn't selected anyone with leagues that ended before 14th.

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                          raul_alessio
                          wrote on last edited by
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                          @SpecialOne #hatsoff for owning the blame and taking the responsibility!

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                          • raul_alessioR raul_alessio

                            @SpecialOne #hatsoff for owning the blame and taking the responsibility!

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                            SpecialOne
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #68

                            @raul_alessio said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

                            @SpecialOne #hatsoff for owning the blame and taking the responsibility!

                            Only the ones that do something can make mistakes πŸ˜‰

                            It's not an excuse, but to collect the info for this event, I have to get info from several tables and two of them are just the biggest ones on the whole OSM.

                            "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                              Markez17
                              Spanish Users
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                              #69

                              WC list update

                              At this exactly moment, we have:

                              • 129 managers confirmed .
                              • 0 managers refused the WC invitation.
                              • We have 33 reserves.
                              • 16 managers have no problem about being league moderator and send invitations if it's needed.

                              Deadline is 18/06 around 18:00 UTC Time. Then, all free places are automatically assigned to reserves who confirmed his/her place, by manager points recollected order. I will send a message to those managers who get a place due to this reason.

                              ES Mod - (19/05/12 - 31/01/13) || ES Staff - (31/01/13 - 31/03/15) || Spanish CM - (01/04/15 - 24/05/16)
                              General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
                              https://www.twitch.tv/MMarquez92

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                                @Markez17 Is it exist an Hall Of Fame of WC where to see all the winners? (And The 2nd, etc...)

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                                • Alexitojr94A Alexitojr94

                                  @Markez17 Is it exist an Hall Of Fame of WC where to see all the winners? (And The 2nd, etc...)

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                                  Markez17
                                  Spanish Users
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #71

                                  @Alexitojr94 there isn't but here you have all winners!

                                  Winners from 2007 to 2016

                                  spoiler

                                  2017 - RuiSilenoz πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Ή
                                  2018 - The Jocker_10 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡¬
                                  2019 - MenagerBL πŸ‡·πŸ‡Έ

                                  ES Mod - (19/05/12 - 31/01/13) || ES Staff - (31/01/13 - 31/03/15) || Spanish CM - (01/04/15 - 24/05/16)
                                  General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
                                  https://www.twitch.tv/MMarquez92

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                                  • M Markez17

                                    @Alexitojr94 there isn't but here you have all winners!

                                    Winners from 2007 to 2016

                                    spoiler

                                    2017 - RuiSilenoz πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Ή
                                    2018 - The Jocker_10 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡¬
                                    2019 - MenagerBL πŸ‡·πŸ‡Έ

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                                    Alexitojr94
                                    Italian Users
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #72

                                    @Markez17 said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

                                    @Alexitojr94 there isn't but here you have all winners!

                                    Winners from 2007 to 2016

                                    spoiler

                                    2017 - RuiSilenoz πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Ή
                                    2018 - The Jocker_10 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡¬
                                    2019 - MenagerBL πŸ‡·πŸ‡Έ

                                    Thanks, mate! πŸ™‚

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                                    • Alexitojr94A Alexitojr94

                                      @Markez17 said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

                                      @Alexitojr94 there isn't but here you have all winners!

                                      Winners from 2007 to 2016

                                      spoiler

                                      2017 - RuiSilenoz πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Ή
                                      2018 - The Jocker_10 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡¬
                                      2019 - MenagerBL πŸ‡·πŸ‡Έ

                                      Thanks, mate! πŸ™‚

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                                      RuiSilenoz
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #73

                                      @Markez17

                                      Hi friend
                                      We must be proud because you are in front of the events. You have been very professional and understanding.
                                      I came here to give you strength at this point because I know how much you dedicate yourself to this competition.
                                      You know, if you need anything you can count on me.

                                      Big hug.

                                      NinguΓ©m avanΓ§a isolado, ninguΓ©m fica para trΓ‘s. Staff OSM RuiSilenoz

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                                        Markez17
                                        Spanish Users
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                                        Just a remind while we wait...

                                        WC 2020 Schedule

                                        Accept/Decline: Until 18/6/2020
                                        Make groups: Between 22/6/2020 and 23/6/2020

                                        1st round: 25/6/2020 - End 1st round: 21/7/2020
                                        Semifinal: 24/7/2020 (Provisional) - End Semifinal: 19/8/2020
                                        Final 21/8/2020 (Provisional) - End Final 16/9/2020

                                        WC leagues - Main rules

                                        • All OSM Rules must be followed.
                                        • Break rules can be punished with lost of league points, be disqualified from competition or be suspended/locked, depends on the seriousness of the matter.
                                        • You can set a player in different position (Except GKs and GK position) but never do it in order to benefit other manager.
                                        • Features like friendlies are up to each manager to decide how many they do per round.
                                        • If you find another manager breaking any rule, just let me know (Markez17) by private message.

                                        ES Mod - (19/05/12 - 31/01/13) || ES Staff - (31/01/13 - 31/03/15) || Spanish CM - (01/04/15 - 24/05/16)
                                        General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
                                        https://www.twitch.tv/MMarquez92

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                                          Any chance we will be able to see the looks of the teams (number of players, quality of players) couple days before start? Would be nice If we could tactically prepare if there will be some weird teams as they used to be sometimes in past (defense and midfield players rated around 60, and attackers rated over 90) πŸ˜„

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