The Eagles Cup

Dovco_HandF

@Leandro-Bandeira
@francy14fc said in The Eagles Cup 2016:

hi I and nacao brasil captain after a dialogue solve the problem
we decide no penalties and the suspenscion of selling players only for a day by my crew

You show that fair play is still alive :clap_tone1:.

reaktorr

what is the problem? There are clear rules that everyone must observe. There is a clear penal system for violating these rules. The team can make a concession and reduce the penalty for another team that violated the rule - but this is only their own business. If they are against - you need to respect their decision and charge the maximum penalty. They are not to blame for the fact that their rival agreed to the rules without even reading them.
The clan agreed to reduce the fine to 600 points. They acted very nobly, having done this.
The guilty clan, instead of accepting 1,350 penalty points, began to demand a reduction in points and did not agree even to 600? Are you seriously?

Here everything is obvious. Or take 600 points and say thank you to your opponents, or take 1350 points and get angry on yourself.

WaterhoenNL

Hereby OSM Striker Ultras want to clarify our decision to forfeit our battle against the RED SKULL ACADEMY.

Our opponent has violated the rule: “no transfers in the 1st preparation day – Every transfer: -50 points” 31(!) times (86.53 mil). We warned them multiple times but they kept selling players. Because of that we demanded a penalty of 1550 points.

The organiser of the event ( @Dovco_HandF) change his own rules more than 15 hours after the tournament started to “for the good of the tournament I am announcing that the maximum penalty for 10 transfers and more, made on the first day of preparation can not be more than -500 points for all transfers”.
Of course we didn’t accept this change of ruling. Firstly because it’s just unacceptable to change rules when the tournament already started and more importantly because our opponent continued to sell players (and violated the rules) even after we warned them. They even responded, but still kept selling players. Why on earth should we at that point help them for 1050 points.

We communicated multiple times with @Dovco_HandF but he kept referring to his second rule. He even said (and I quote): “......-500 points or spend boss coins and make transfers like your opponent. Simple”, implying that we also should violate his own(!!!) rules.

A also asked him to reply on my question in this topic but he only answered: "Good luck!"

It’s a really pity we have to end this tournament this way. Never thought a tournament organiser would betray his own rules to keep the battles ‘interesting’. And because of that he harmed the teams that read and followed the rules.

Best regards,
Rens/WaterhoenNL
Captain of OSM Striker Ultras.

Rafelmaz

Next round, please let the transfers free from the 1st day of preseason...too much troubles with this rule...

Dovco_HandF

@WaterhoenNL
@Dovco_HandF said in The Eagles Cup 2016:
Regarding the penalties, I wrote my position here:

Pick the wrong team with the same goal will cost: -150 points.
Pick the wrong team with the diffrent goal will cost: -300 points.
Always captains can to do deal and they can communicate with each other. If you do not reach a consensus - will be apply look penalty system above.

Every mistake must be reported in this forum topic!
All reported penalties, must be accompanied by proof (screen print).

As usual in the first round there was a lot of confusion with the transfers, because not everyone read the tournament forum and the rules of the battle at The Eagles Cup 3.0 2017. Unfortunately many managers do not want to agree on penalties, they see the chance of a bonus of -1000 points at the start of battle.
     For the good of the tournament I am announcing that the maximum penalty for 10 transfers and more, 
     made on the first day of preparation can not be more than -500 points for all transfers. 
     I request about communication between both crew captains fighting in battles, 
      who have this problem to solve and to agree.
Please respect this decision. Thank you and enjoy!

@WaterhoenNL you can write to me an appeal. And I will examine them and give you a reply within 24 h. But she will be the same as my post published above, dearYou can also protest and leave the tournament if you want. This is your decision, I'm going to bed. Good night.

Lirind

We are in prep 2 can we buy and sell players or we need to wait 00:00

Dovco_HandF

@Rafelmaz Yes, soon to be the rules for the 2nd round.

Dovco_HandF

@Lirind If you have 2nd day prep you can buy and sell players :ok_hand_tone1:.

Le Tre Creste

@Dovco_HandF said in The Eagles Cup 2016:

@Rafelmaz Yes, soon to be the rules for the 2nd round.

Why are you going to change them again? XD

ToomAnyWays

I think that was because of word 'transfers'. Many managers thinked that we can't buy in 1st prep day, (e.g. me) but selling is allowed like in normal battles and that where that little misunderstanding came from. I think that next time everyone will be more inquisitive Take counsel that you may avoid mistakes.

WaterhoenNL

@WaterhoenNL you can write to me an appeal. And I will examine them and give you a reply within 24 h. But she will be the same as my post published above, dearYou can also protest and leave the tournament if you want. This is your decision, I'm going to bed. Good night.

I hope you are not implying that I haven’t appealed. Because (as you know) I have multiple times.

I asked @Dovco_HandF permission to use his comments for my explanation.

Firstly around 14:00 and you answered: “Yes, I understood you. Soon will be messge about this event on the frum - anyway you win this battle in my opinion”.

After that you created your new rule. Of course I appealed again and you answered: “You don't akccept this situation, your opponent accept as well. -500 points for you is like a win before battle. Sorry, but I don;t understand you. No chance for good decision. Good for everybody.”
It’s just a fact it wasn’t good for everybody, only our opponent benefited by your newly created rule.

After that I appealed again and you only repeated your previous statements. And implied we should also violate the rules: “...-500 points or spend boss coins and make transfers like your opponent. Simple.”

When I appealed again after this outrages comment and asked you to give an explanation on the forum you didn’t even bother and only answered: “Good luck!”

Diaz Hadynata

@Dovco_HandF
Merah Putih vs The Gunner

How toughness of the tournament committee, because the opponent or captain did not respond to our messages until 1x24 hours regarding the rules and penalty that occurred. And up to now 2 opposing managers still have not joined the League, if it is not serious please do not join tournament.

chindilcuk

Rule is rule man, obey it or penalty will be given, there's no correlation between humanity or fair-play. All crews were registered by their manager in this (only)forum-threads, so they're assumed read & accept the terms/rules of this tournament.
For the sake of this tournament reputation, please stick to the rule. New rule should be affected forward, not backward.

Dovco_HandF

@WaterhoenNL No comment :ok_hand_tone1:.

Dovco_HandF

@Diaz-Hadynata
This is the problem of the opponent, how many players in the league. Not yours. If the captain has not responded to the penalty, the tournament rules apply:
Pick the wrong team with the same goal will cost: -150 points.
Pick the wrong team with the diffrent goal will cost: -300 points.
No transfers between crewmates! For every transfer you will get penalty like Battlepedia said.
Friendlies: till four for the round only between colleagues from the Crew (Players do not have to play on their original positions - the rule only for friendlies). For challenge an opponent to a friendly match - 100 penalty points.
No transfers in the 1st preparation day! Every transfer: -50 points.
For the good of the tournament I am announcing that the maximum penalty for 10 transfers and more, made on the first day of preparation can not be more than -500 points for all transfers.
I request about communication between both crew captains fighting in battles, who have this problem to solve and to agree.
Every mistake must be reported in this forum topic!
All reported penalties, must be accompanied by proof (screen print).

Dovco_HandF

@chindilcuk
Very wise and mature opinion. Thank you :thumbsup_tone1:.

I Love Niken

@Diaz-Hadynata said in The Eagles Cup 2016:

what is this a violation ?? see in the picture,
Http://oi66.tinypic.com/2ym66a8.jpg

Potential Our moderator wrongly makes the setting at a shortened time to no, is there a workaround for this?

Crew The opponent chooses the team does not fit their Line up list, exchanges clubs but their own fellow crew, what is it including the offense?

@Dovco_HandF said in The Eagles Cup 2016:

Conclusion: First, try to solve problems with captains of the opponents.You can certainly discuss everything and get along. On the forum we write when there is no dialogue between the captains and only then we apply the penalty regulations.
All right?

Hello @Dovco_HandF , The Gunner captain didnt respond our PM, so we decide to claim pinalty for The Gunner crew.

They do 7 transfers on first preparation day (-350)
Since PM does not make the league as specified, we will keep doing fair play, not to use banned items (TC, private funds, instant timers). But we do not know how many penalty points if they use TC.
They took the team not according to the line up in the post (-350).

@Diaz-Hadynata @Dovco_HandF @كسامي1
regards

Dovco_HandF

@I-Love-Niken said in The Eagles Cup 2016:

They do 7 transfers on first preparation day (-350)
Since PM does not make the league as specified, we will keep doing fair play, not to use banned items (TC, private funds, instant timers). But we do not know how many penalty points if they use TC.
They took the team not according to the line up in the post (-350).

They do 7 transfers on first preparation day (-350) Yes :ok_hand_tone2:
They took the team not according to the line up in the post (-350). Yes :ok_hand_tone1:
If the league is with the TC, it is a mistake and should be resolved and re-created. Exception: The consent of two captains, that they play in the league using training camps / without training camps. Points penalties are not provided.
Thank you.

Diaz Hadynata

@Dovco_HandF The opposing crew captain can not complain we, until 2x24 hours they have not replied to our message, how to solve the problem.

Davemx1984

@Dovco_HandF said in The Eagles Cup 2016:

@WaterhoenNL
@Dovco_HandF said in The Eagles Cup 2016:
Regarding the penalties, I wrote my position here:
Pick the wrong team with the same goal will cost: -150 points.
Pick the wrong team with the diffrent goal will cost: -300 points.
Always captains can to do deal and they can communicate with each other. If you do not reach a consensus - will be apply look penalty system above.

Every mistake must be reported in this forum topic!
All reported penalties, must be accompanied by proof (screen print).

As usual in the first round there was a lot of confusion with the transfers, because not everyone read the tournament forum and the rules of the battle at The Eagles Cup 3.0 2017. Unfortunately many managers do not want to agree on penalties, they see the chance of a bonus of -1000 points at the start of battle.
     For the good of the tournament I am announcing that the maximum penalty for 10 transfers and more, 
     made on the first day of preparation can not be more than -500 points for all transfers. 
     I request about communication between both crew captains fighting in battles, 
      who have this problem to solve and to agree.
Please respect this decision. Thank you and enjoy!
@WaterhoenNL you can write to me an appeal. And I will examine them and give you a reply within 24 h. But she will be the same as my post published above, dearYou can also protest and leave the tournament if you want. This is your decision, I'm going to bed. Good night.

To be honest, this is very onprofessional and its like where dealing with amateurs.
Its very easy the rules are simple, but its your decision.
But just wanted to let you know that this kinda decisions make you very plausible for a job like this or even make an event like this.

Hope next time you will obey your own rules and acked like man and take the right decision.

If the rukes are clear they are clear, its your own work to let your crew know about this rules

This is just my opinion, no hard feelings but this is something i wanted to let you know

Greetz from Dave