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  • otman347891O otman347891

    @SpecialOne Hello

    Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first ๐Ÿ˜‚.

    I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

    Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
    Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
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    wrote on last edited by Jeff_Davies
    #246

    @otman347891 said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    @SpecialOne Hello

    Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first ๐Ÿ˜‚.

    I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

    Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
    Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
    Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

    The last league I played I finished 3rd with a goal 9 playing against all the top crews in CCW. Very strong leagues and good squad builders. Big difference in squad values at the start in these community leagues between goals.

    I got - 3,855 (minus) medals in it when I finished ๐Ÿ˜‚get hardly any for a win and loads per loss throughout the leagueโ€ฆโ€ฆ.
    But these medals are a worthy replacement for manager points๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿคฅ๐Ÿคกwho thinks these are good a replacement need to go in hard leagues and not chump leagues. Whoevers idea this was is a very bright guy๐Ÿฅด๐Ÿ˜‚

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    • Jeff_DaviesJ Jeff_Davies

      @otman347891 said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

      @SpecialOne Hello

      Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first ๐Ÿ˜‚.

      I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

      Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
      Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
      Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

      The last league I played I finished 3rd with a goal 9 playing against all the top crews in CCW. Very strong leagues and good squad builders. Big difference in squad values at the start in these community leagues between goals.

      I got - 3,855 (minus) medals in it when I finished ๐Ÿ˜‚get hardly any for a win and loads per loss throughout the leagueโ€ฆโ€ฆ.
      But these medals are a worthy replacement for manager points๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿคฅ๐Ÿคกwho thinks these are good a replacement need to go in hard leagues and not chump leagues. Whoevers idea this was is a very bright guy๐Ÿฅด๐Ÿ˜‚

      ruipsc5R Offline
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      ruipsc5
      Portuguese Users
      wrote on last edited by
      #247

      @jeffro-davies The new ranking system it's really a joke!

      f5ff53b2-d1b9-4c48-866e-a9846645434c-image.png

      Goal 16... Ranked 4th... Minus 5.725 medals...

      ๐Ÿ™„

      Elite Legends Gold Crewboss

      Crew Cup World Staff Member

      Associaรงรฃo Portuguesa Grupos Staff Member

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      • otman347891O otman347891

        @SpecialOne Hello

        Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first ๐Ÿ˜‚.

        I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

        Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
        Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
        Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

        timilic7T Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
        #248

        @otman347891 good exemple !!!!!
        @SpecialOne one reaction please about this?

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        • Jeff_DaviesJ Jeff_Davies

          @otman347891 said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

          @SpecialOne Hello

          Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first ๐Ÿ˜‚.

          I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

          Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
          Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
          Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

          The last league I played I finished 3rd with a goal 9 playing against all the top crews in CCW. Very strong leagues and good squad builders. Big difference in squad values at the start in these community leagues between goals.

          I got - 3,855 (minus) medals in it when I finished ๐Ÿ˜‚get hardly any for a win and loads per loss throughout the leagueโ€ฆโ€ฆ.
          But these medals are a worthy replacement for manager points๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿคฅ๐Ÿคกwho thinks these are good a replacement need to go in hard leagues and not chump leagues. Whoevers idea this was is a very bright guy๐Ÿฅด๐Ÿ˜‚

          timilic7T Offline
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          timilic7
          wrote on last edited by timilic7
          #249

          @jeffro-davies ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

          ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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          • ruipsc5R ruipsc5

            @jeffro-davies The new ranking system it's really a joke!

            f5ff53b2-d1b9-4c48-866e-a9846645434c-image.png

            Goal 16... Ranked 4th... Minus 5.725 medals...

            ๐Ÿ™„

            timilic7T Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #250

            @ruipsc5 wonderful!!!! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

            ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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            • ruipsc5R ruipsc5

              @jeffro-davies The new ranking system it's really a joke!

              f5ff53b2-d1b9-4c48-866e-a9846645434c-image.png

              Goal 16... Ranked 4th... Minus 5.725 medals...

              ๐Ÿ™„

              Matija MD DujanM Online
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              Matija MD Dujan
              wrote on last edited by Matija MD Dujan
              #251

              @ruipsc5 Problem is that you guys are simply not good enough for OSM standards I guess.. I mean, check this pro player in global top 10. We plebs can only dream such majestic wins and goal differences, we are simply not good enough for this game: ๐Ÿ˜‰

              capture-20210609-145943.png

              alt text
              ๐Ÿฅ‰ 2021 OSM World Nations Cup - 3rd place (Croatia NT)
              Crew: Proud to be Croat

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              • Matija MD DujanM Matija MD Dujan

                @ruipsc5 Problem is that you guys are simply not good enough for OSM standards I guess.. I mean, check this pro player in global top 10. We plebs can only dream such majestic wins and goal differences, we are simply not good enough for this game: ๐Ÿ˜‰

                capture-20210609-145943.png

                Ado Haฤkoviฤ‡ KompanyA Offline
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                Ado Haฤkoviฤ‡ Kompany
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                #252

                @majstor-matt said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                @ruipsc5 Problem is that you guys are simply not good enough for OSM standards I guess.. I mean, check this pro player in global top 10. We plebs can only dream such majestic wins and goal differences, we are simply not good enough for this game: ๐Ÿ˜‰

                capture-20210609-145943.png

                Oo my God. I scored max. 100 goals in one season, I believe with Bayern Munich ๐Ÿ˜…

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                Nagelsmann on fire ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
                Tari Gamad ๐Ÿ”ž๐Ÿ“Œ๐Ÿ’ฆ

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                • Dennis S BergkampD Offline
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                  #253

                  it's really pathetic. Look at manager in top 4. 146 goals with a 33.6 mln squad. Number 2 in the league happens to play in all other leagues of this same manager. ๐Ÿค”
                  f92288f3-b644-469d-9d94-6998548055f9-image.png

                  But I must admit I'm really happy with the VIP ticket I received ๐Ÿ˜

                  You can either blame everybody else or you can take a look at yourself and determine where you can improve.

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                  • Dennis S BergkampD Dennis S Bergkamp

                    it's really pathetic. Look at manager in top 4. 146 goals with a 33.6 mln squad. Number 2 in the league happens to play in all other leagues of this same manager. ๐Ÿค”
                    f92288f3-b644-469d-9d94-6998548055f9-image.png

                    But I must admit I'm really happy with the VIP ticket I received ๐Ÿ˜

                    Ali el padjoA Offline
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                    #254

                    @dennis-s-bergkamp maybe they are 2 friends and playing together , u cant Judge people like that ,, just report him and if u are rightt he will be banned

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                    • Ali el padjoA Ali el padjo

                      @dennis-s-bergkamp maybe they are 2 friends and playing together , u cant Judge people like that ,, just report him and if u are rightt he will be banned

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                      #255

                      @ali-el-padjo said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                      @dennis-s-bergkamp maybe they are 2 friends and playing together , u cant Judge people like that ,, just report him and if u are rightt he will be banned

                      ๐Ÿ˜… True, but I didn't want to make my post to big, cause if you check the majority of other (inactive) accounts they all play in the same leagues. So they are all part of the same big happy friends club ๐Ÿ˜‰

                      Just an example of another manager in that league
                      28db58bd-3db7-40c4-bc2a-87a845955c8a-image.png

                      and like you probably also know, you cannot report a manager if you're not playing in the same league.

                      You can either blame everybody else or you can take a look at yourself and determine where you can improve.

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                      • Dennis S BergkampD Dennis S Bergkamp

                        it's really pathetic. Look at manager in top 4. 146 goals with a 33.6 mln squad. Number 2 in the league happens to play in all other leagues of this same manager. ๐Ÿค”
                        f92288f3-b644-469d-9d94-6998548055f9-image.png

                        But I must admit I'm really happy with the VIP ticket I received ๐Ÿ˜

                        timilic7T Offline
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                        #256

                        @dennis-s-bergkamp fantastic ๐Ÿ˜ข๐Ÿ˜ข๐Ÿ˜ข

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                        • Jeff_DaviesJ Offline
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                          Someone do me a favour from Admin or staff, I have a VIP ticket and an open slot Iโ€™m not planning on using for a whileโ€ฆโ€ฆ

                          Everytime I log into OSM I see it as a MASSIVE insult and a reminder that this pure excuse of a reward is for being in the top 10k for manager points. Just take it away please and put it in the trash. You might aswell have just not gave a reward. Thank you for the 50coins too, itโ€™s very much appreciated ๐Ÿคฅ

                          Infact if you like put me as rank zero and remove all my medals, Iโ€™m close to division 10 but I will end up getting very confused what to do with all the 300 BC ๐Ÿค” Decisions, decisions ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                          • Dennis S BergkampD Dennis S Bergkamp

                            @ali-el-padjo said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                            @dennis-s-bergkamp maybe they are 2 friends and playing together , u cant Judge people like that ,, just report him and if u are rightt he will be banned

                            ๐Ÿ˜… True, but I didn't want to make my post to big, cause if you check the majority of other (inactive) accounts they all play in the same leagues. So they are all part of the same big happy friends club ๐Ÿ˜‰

                            Just an example of another manager in that league
                            28db58bd-3db7-40c4-bc2a-87a845955c8a-image.png

                            and like you probably also know, you cannot report a manager if you're not playing in the same league.

                            Matija MD DujanM Online
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                            Matija MD Dujan
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                            #258

                            @dennis-s-bergkamp said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                            and like you probably also know, you cannot report a manager if you're not playing in the same league.

                            I tried reporting some of them via OSM Support mail. I wonder If I will manage to get someone take a look at them.

                            Medals wouldnt be a problem if they were fair and If we all had same chances. But If they are telling me that only fair chance of getting to higher ranking is by cheating, then I cannot accept it as fair ranking for everyone.

                            And as for showing skill and level of manager, that will never be true with medals as win vs lvl1 manager can never be valued the same as win vs lvl 10 manager, just as win with Osasuna can never worth the same as win with Real Madrid. Sad ranking indeed when you think about it...

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                            ๐Ÿฅ‰ 2021 OSM World Nations Cup - 3rd place (Croatia NT)
                            Crew: Proud to be Croat

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                            • otman347891O Offline
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                              #259

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                              That's pretty ๐Ÿคก !

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                                The first manager in Kosovo ranking is a guy called 'MiftarDuraj'. This guy has 495k medals and has been cheating since this medals were introduced. All managers from slot 1 are also same managers in other 3 slots. And you can easily detect that guy is cheating by the names of accounts (if you are Kosovar). This guy tried to play some official battles in 'Wolves of Kosovo' crew but he was very bad and stopped it (not sure if he got kick or just left) and now is focused to gain more medals. Already in 495k and still not banned...

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                                • JetonT.J JetonT.

                                  The first manager in Kosovo ranking is a guy called 'MiftarDuraj'. This guy has 495k medals and has been cheating since this medals were introduced. All managers from slot 1 are also same managers in other 3 slots. And you can easily detect that guy is cheating by the names of accounts (if you are Kosovar). This guy tried to play some official battles in 'Wolves of Kosovo' crew but he was very bad and stopped it (not sure if he got kick or just left) and now is focused to gain more medals. Already in 495k and still not banned...

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                                  #261

                                  @jetont Iโ€™m really surprised that GB doesnโ€™t have the option to automatically detect a potential cheater.
                                  Otherwise, there would be fewer managers, but it would be at least more fair than now

                                  L

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                                    For some reason, I didn't like this new system and I was completely alienated from the game.

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                                      These manager medal are really broken and needs a lot of work! Iโ€™ve just looked at the manager list in my CCW league and all managers apart from 1 have minus medals. Only a G5 in sixth position has plus medals๐Ÿ˜‚some of us are loads higher than their goal too position wise. Laughable. This update is really shocking.

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                                        TaลŸyรผrek Semih
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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #264

                                        osm's new updates and medal system are ridiculous and not enjoyable. So I decided to quit the game. I wish everyone success with the new system.

                                        Sakaryaspor 2019-โˆž

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                                          Today I lost the game in three slots, statistically I killed my opponent, so I was better. I lost about 4000 medal points ๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก. Where is the logic?

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