OSM WC 2018 Edition

MenagerBL

Before I write few things I must say I won't aprove some changes because my ass is safe. I would write the same if i had 50.000 or 100.000 MP's. With 34k you have to admit I'm not out of the race, and tbh I'don't care for this competition anymore. Before 3-4 years it was a big deal for me, but after I saw all the things in last few years now a regular league on my main account is more important to me. I played in 3 OSM WC leagues, so my goal to participate in the WC is achieved.

Reasons for reducing the number of participiants:
Organizer is bothered to put few more hours out of 365 days in checking some accounts. What an explanation. Other guys don't have real life. Just the organizer.
If he is cheerful - you will participate, if not - bad luck for you, wait 1 more year for a new chance.
Mate if u don't have time then retire, go have some cold beer on the beach, leave this crap...or guess what? Find 1 or 2 guys to help you. Simple as that.
Game with more than 5.000.000 (active players) potential participiants depends on 1 guy. This is one heck of a story! lol
Other reason: MAYBE a higher competitive level...MAYBE...and less problems.
How that? I saw ''problems'' appearead 3 times in the FINAL and that's a locig thing because everyone wants to be the WorldChampion. So doesen't matter if you have 800 participiants or 50 if a problem appear it will probably appear in a final of 12 players.

Becuase one reason or another in the last years there were just issues and controversy about the WC. I'm wondering there are still people who are much interested in this competition...

GOOD LUCK TO ALL PARTICIPIANTS! You will need strong nerves.

Vladimir DANI

@neverbackdown-2oo9 said in OSM WC 2018 Edition:

@vladimir-dani Have you spent the money in the last 6 months to get the last qualifying place? If that's what you thought then you did not know how to use it wisely. I spent the money getting a place among the first qualified not only to hope that by a miracle I will qualify myself in the WC. Let's not forget that it's a competition and we need to know how to lose it in any way and maybe next year you will work harder to get a safe place. Good luck to everyone!

Instead of teaching me how to spend my money, you'd better assist to lonely organizer so he could keep this tournament without reduction.

Vladimir DANI

@menagerbl said in OSM WC 2018 Edition:

Before I write few things I must say I won't aprove some changes because my ass is safe. I would write the same if i had 50.000 or 100.000 MP's. With 34k you have to admit I'm not out of the race, and tbh I'don't care for this competition anymore. Before 3-4 years it was a big deal for me, but after I saw all the things in last few years now a regular league on my main account is more important to me. I played in 3 OSM WC leagues, so my goal to participate in the WC is achieved.

Reasons for reducing the number of participiants:
Organizer is bothered to put few more hours out of 365 days in checking some accounts. What an explanation. Other guys don't have real life. Just the organizer.
If he is cheerful - you will participate, if not - bad luck for you, wait 1 more year for a new chance.
Mate if u don't have time then retire, go have some cold beer on the beach, leave this crap...or guess what? Find 1 or 2 guys to help you. Simple as that.
Game with more than 5.000.000 (active players) potential participiants depends on 1 guy. This is one heck of a story! lol
Other reason: MAYBE a higher competitive level...MAYBE...and less problems.
How that? I saw ''problems'' appearead 3 times in the FINAL and that's a locig thing because everyone wants to be the WorldChampion. So doesen't matter if you have 800 participiants or 50 if a problem appear it will probably appear in a final of 12 players.

Becuase one reason or another in the last years there were just issues and controversy about the WC. I'm wondering there are still people who are much interested in this competition...

GOOD LUCK TO ALL PARTICIPIANTS! You will need strong nerves.

Appreciate for this post. Exactly what I was trying to say Due to my bad English can't compose such long texts.

NeverBackDown 2oo9

@vladimir-dani I am not happy with this announcement but the decision has already been taken and we can not change anything. I would be happy to help because 3 friends in my crew could not attend, they made between 30 and 34,000 manager points and now certainly they will not succeed in this WC

Markez17

Don't forget when the qualification period was changed... And we all see so much complainings and disagree about that. After that, nobody talks about it.

Maybe if OSM WC 2019 has 144 places again, nobody complain with that. I don't know if i will organize it but, when 2018 edition reach the end i'm open to listen suggestions about minor or major changes to improve the competition

PS: I'm an old & hardcore user too!

rafael 1974

@markez17 I agree with all of you up to some extent. First of all, I know that you are busy and this must surely be a hard task to deal with such an extent number of players, leagues, etc. The best would be to share the task with some more mods, mainly from other nationalities so that problems can be solved more easily. Neither everybody speaks English, nor yours is perfect (I hope you dont mind me telling you so). From my experience many managers use the translators devices available on the internet and if there are mistakes the translator doesnt work properly and it may lead to misunderstandings. Hence, although it is not my task I offer to help you with English so that you can communicate exactly what you really intend to say.

I understand other managers who feel fooled or deceived for the change in the ratio and now feel excluded from their dreams. There are many who have truly fought until the very last moment to reach the magical 30k points which would thus have taken them to their long-awaited WC. Speaking of fairness at this point seems to be out of any reason. I agree with you, Markez, in the sense that this task really may get to be out of your control if you accept more people than you can afford. However, accepting 192 is manageable if you then reduce the number of contestants per league who go into the following round. Anyway, the organizer is the one who sets the rules so you have my firm support at this point.

For successive years I would be clearer in advance. I would open a round for suggestions at the end of this WC so that as many ideas as possible would be brainstormed. Feel free to put the limits at any moment of the period but in case it were possible, tell the sooner the possible.

Thank you

Hansinho

@markez17 Hi, mate..
First of all, I want you to know that I do really appreciate your hardwork to organise such event like this OSM WC. Not everyone can or willing to do that. You should be proud..
I've read all these posts in this topic. After read your last post, I realise that you missed the point about why so many managers are complaining your decision.
I don't think it's about the number 144 of participants. But it's about the time you made the announcement..
Ideally, rules don't change after it started. Yes, you made a note label "very important" at your first post. I believe you had something in your mind with no decision at that point. And based on that note, you thought you can make the adjustment later. Yes, you can. But.. you should make up your mind at the early stage of the qualification period, where every managers still can adapt to your new number (if you really had to, with good reasons of course). I don't think you can do that after period ends..
I have to say @Lafuens , @Vladimir-DANI , @MenagerBL , @rafael-1974 , Romanian Moderator @NeverBackDown-2oo9 have their points, mate..
Please don't get me wrong. It's not about me qualified or not. Really. I would love to be qualified of course. I won't lie to you. But that's not the point right now..
I know this post won't change anything. You've made your decision. Do it. You still have my support. I just hope better next time (if) you organise an event like this..
Thanks for your time reading my post.. Peace, mate..
Congratz to all qualified managers. To those who are not, life goes on..

Markez17

I read of course all your messages but sorry, it's always the same thing and my response is similar always... I understand you all about your position and viewpoint, some things are more or less logical and others are only lack of information about how others editions worked!
It's funny to talk about compare OSM WC and Russia WC... Russia WC doesn't have a lot of cheaters!

When i made first topic post (November '17) i was sure that i will set OSM WC 2018 places number when i got the provisional WC list. You can give thanks to all users that can't respect OSM rules but i'm sure that you all are happier users if you come to a public topic and talk about a bad organization.

Maybe you all can try to organize WC 2019, i have pairs of boot for everyone that wants to put in my situation! Until then, i will continue sending invitations to those users that get a place.

SirFabioCanà

@markez17 said in OSM WC 2018 Edition:

Don't forget when the qualification period was changed... And we all see so much complainings and disagree about that. After that, nobody talks about it.

Maybe if OSM WC 2019 has 144 places again, nobody complain with that. I don't know if i will organize it but, when 2018 edition reach the end i'm open to listen suggestions about minor or major changes to improve the competition

PS: I'm an old & hardcore user too!

Mate, don't get confused about the fear of a ban with a lack of complaining.
Where a ban means a goodbye to the WC.

Markez17

From Wednesday until today, i have been done the followings things about OSM WC:

Teams updated.
All 144 users got an invitation, around 110 already reply and all of them accept it!
Preparing everything about 1st round stage.
Lock some cheaters accounts found during WC list checking.

Maybe today i will send messages to some users that got a reserve place. If i still have free time, i will continue punishing some cheaters!

SirFabioCanà

@Markez17 is there no one can help you between CMs?

Markez17

@sirfabiocanà said in OSM WC 2018 Edition:

@Markez17 is there no one can help you between CMs?

Why this question now? The most difficult thing is already done, i made the work that i planned to have on 22/06 in three days more or less. Now i have five "free" days

Thank you for take care of me but i'm fine!

SirFabioCanà

@markez17 said in OSM WC 2018 Edition:

@sirfabiocanà said in OSM WC 2018 Edition:

@Markez17 is there no one can help you between CMs?

Why this question now? The most difficult thing is already done, i made the work that i planned to have on 22/06 in three days more or less. Now i have five "free" days

Thank you for take care of me but i'm fine!

I talk just about "the most difficult thing". The previous EM simply asked for a help from CMs and every year there was a team of 3-4 guys who did this hard work.
In this way, his life was "saved", as number of partecipants.

BTW, was only a curiosity.

May be a great competition!

ruby2003

Good luck all!!

Markez17

20 qualified managers didn't give reply yet. (Deadline - Wednesday 27th)
22 of 26 reserves already replied me and are agree to be part of this WC edition if finally they got a free place.
I'm thinking about send 5-10 more PM to the next reserves in the list.

I will public 1st stage groups next Thursday, 28th June and don't forget that we need at least 12 potential moderators to send invitations the day that leagues will be created.
Without moderators, we can't play this competition so feel free to send me a private message and let me know if you can help to make it possible as soon as possible

No league moderator before 2nd July = League deleted and all 12 managers will be disqualified!

Markez17

1st Stage Draw

Group 1 (League moderator: @RuiSilenoz)

RuiSilenoz
giuxeppe87
yaylaronie
Damiś27
Sebabiano
gallettoarrogante
Michy_69
karsaij
ShoarmaDude17
mahmood sahwan
IovaCodrutLiv
sbrugio85

Group 2 (League moderator: @Daniele-Benjiamin)

karakanim
zardiRussia
Yozora17
Alessandro 1973
Vitor Pessa
alex1963
CleveLand23
Wenger Wise
nalimnalim
سوما39
Daniele Benjiamin
salvociri

Group 3 (League moderator: @leucostin)

luigi74
Inmate002
IoanMaties
MontellaValero
zieCR7
stefu marius
uzay ozer
leucostin
kikke teams
Skeggiati
danoct
Daredevil86

Group 4 (League moderator: @Maio66)

F.S.M.0.13
Profezor
AlexRinghio
Guiz90
taLion xD
Ottone1900
Pizzi_77
Maio66
bollardsau
SavicBranko
Luis Lozoya Franco
zannino antonio

Group 5 (League moderator: @Lirind)

Hestera
German Chester
Alvaro Barros
paloma1965
Lirind
Megatron Optimus Prime
SirFabioCanà
Andrei_jardel
robbyc76
MortaraG.
alvarorr_98
rubinhosantana

Group 6 (League moderator: @Marjan-F.)

sistematikci
Marjan F.
manhay
cutterXL
Alex Demartin
Северная Пальмира
m.rebizant
helderfutclub
jorgecasla
richeartselcuk_sen
Mauricio280888
nexium.coco

Group 7 (League moderator: @ALİ-KOÇ-61)

ALİ KOÇ 61
CnytAkn
VlaD-I
Cosmindaniel86
Mano Meneses.
ADEL1982
Cirujeanding
dariomilan92
aymakmm
faruk061
dvd1989
SRACELLO

Group 8 (League moderator: @milito6969)

NeverBackDown 2oo9
vince13carter
IMarin
milito6969
طــــــــــرزان
AndreiFM
andy96star
abo 3lawi [S1]
luck270986
IammaCcezzionale
PROF.CONSY
مدرب من عصر تاني

Group 9 (League moderator: @A-touch-of-magic)

MustafaKaya19o5
Ray Draco76
MotaNelu
YusuF ÇİRCİ
Athwine
Mickytuli
numanvural
kemalcagri43
sisnar
Jwheoene
dario el vicio
A touch of magic

Group 10 (League moderator: @raul_alessio)

milito1393
DarylDixon31
josejay1914
Hardinero
Paulo Filipe Cunha
nelsonm91
THE_GREAT_GATSBY
Bodea Tudor
JOAKIN FLORENTIN 10
raul_alessio
timilic7
Nunoesteves77

Group 11 (League moderator: @boskovice)

scorzinho
sULtAn çER
sg_gaz
Nickreds
YnsKya08
Sir DRibeiro
maurinio75
ArmidoCario
alex11stefan
boskovice
cristi10ab
Byku Duma Warmii

Group 12 (League moderator: @FGORDO)

FCTrabZonLu
Blondu C10
xcalin
tankkaplani
J.Shephard
andresoke
The Jocker_10
FGORDO
huzur8080
merthan10
хуан гаридо
Alnomesi

Markez17

WHAT HAPPEN NOW?

Between today and tomorrow, I will send one PM to each participant with his/her group information and 1st stage beggining date, have a free slot 2nd July as maximum, etc.

Each league moderator will receive another message about slot that they will use to play the league, team that they want to have and other useful data about their duty!

Don't forget that:

We have some subs and they will replace someone that don't enter in the league after 48 hours.
If you received some days ago the message to be part of WC 2018 and you didn't response, you lose your place! You can answer it now and if you was in the 144 first, I can accept you as reserve but all subs that we already have will go before you.

I'm working in WC during this week and prepare everything to not have any problem... I hope it deserves and you all make me happy!
Now prepare your mind to play and try to be the OSM manager

Robbiebb_NL

Go @a-touch-of-magic and @ShoarmaDude17
Make A Good Looking Imperium proud

giuxeppe87

a real pleasure to deal with the champion in charge @RuiSilenoz ,good luck to all!

Lirind

Hi @Markez17

Thnx for the PM but I have a question and I'll write here:

In which hour the league will be created?