the game engine is broken
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@uchenna-a said in the game engine is broken:
@peenagees Also I think tactics impact on whether you win or get trashed is just too big and ridiculous in OSM. Even though tactics have a large impact in real life when two teams of similar quality play, I don't think tactics have as much as an impact in real life as they do in OSM when a big team plays a small team. It still remains that even when a small team has better tactics than a big team, the scorelines that a small team wins by in OSM is just stupid. The impact of tactics is just ridiculous and unrealistic in OSM, and I think the objective for OSM should be realism, and I don't think they are reaching that objective with their absolute trash, terrible, and broken game engine.
You keep repeating the same words over and over again ( and not just you mate ) , so let me ask you a couple things.
If the game engine is a complete failure then how come you got this kind of winning ratio?
How did you get 20 championships and 19 Cups? Why do we get to see 1256 winning matches on your game profile instead of lost ones?
And what are you trying to achieve by blaming the OSM engine for every loss that you get? After all it is the same engine that every manager on OSM is using therefore we all get the same chances for wins or losses. Am I right?
Why do you guys keep using this forum in such a negative way, throwing meaningless accusations on this topic about the game engine instead of trying to benefit and interact with each other by for instance presenting actual examples of lost matches with screen shots of those matches's results.
You could have a real discussion here, a creative conversation about your match results, your tactics and maybe just maybe this way you could exchange your ideas and thoughts about them, learn new things, get inspired by fellow managers , get improved and eventually try a different approach for goodness sake on your future settings and tactics.@SUPERNOVA-8 I just feel strongly about this topic, which is why I kept repeating the same statement at the end of my posts, cuz I actually meant to do that. Also is that actually a good ratio? Cuz I never really paid attention to that. I also didn't fully consider 20 championships and 19 cups to impressive because I have been playing on my computer for 2 years (With a 4-month break) and I just recently started to care about world domination and managing in small leagues.
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Im always more than happy to lose if the opponent deserves it and outplays me.. But I simply hate from the bottom of the heart results like this, even If I get them in my favour (but of course that happens like 1 time after I get hammered 10 times in the same style):
Results like this are always driving me close to quitting the game. I completely outpaly him, even though he used camp and I did not, but somehow he still manages to win, and to be worse its cup game so Im knocked out of cup due to this ### result. Really annoying and compeltely undeserving, and Its not the first time against the camp. Almost like this game is becoming pay to win game and it wants you to use as many camps as possible. Sad.
@Majstor-Matt This is sad mate but is something that we can't escape from this.
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@SUPERNOVA-8 Mobile apps aren't the only thing you can download and install.
Even though Fifa has a mobile app too, but usually it's played either on PC or consoles such as PS4 or Xbox. #GenerationGAP 
@Dhrubo-II said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 Mobile apps aren't the only thing you can download and install.
Even though Fifa has a mobile app too, but usually it's played either on PC or consoles such as PS4 or Xbox. #GenerationGAP Like I said, I'm not interested about it. As for your other comment. You're absolutely right on the generation gap. We can see that from your lack of good manners.
Oh well, at least I made you laugh...
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@Majstor-Matt This is sad mate but is something that we can't escape from this.
@Lirind I know, Im already used to this. In almost every league I ahve one ridiculous result like this. The most annoying thing is that I have to wait 10 times before Im on the other end of this "bingo luck" result. If it was happening more equally and If I was awarded more when Im dominated, well then it would be easier to accept this as normal.. But oh well, it is what it is..
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Pointless to comment....
@Majstor-Matt Hiya Matty.
Please mate , since you were so kind to share 2 of your match stats and thank you so much for that , do me this favor and let's have a discussion about these results. It would mean a lot to me. Because I know you are a well experienced manager and you are the same man who posted in the past amazing results on the Braggers topic showing how to counter a TC ( Training Camp ).
So I was wondering, what made you choose to use a 343B in both matches ? The 343B is a super offensive formation , isn't it ? Therefore I suppose in both cases you had the stronger line up , otherwise it would make no sense to go with this formation.
Now , according to your first screenshot you were facing a TC . And your opponent was using a 433 B , which is also considered as one of the best offensive formations.
My question would be : how come you didn't choose a super defensive formation to counter him , since you decided not to reply with a TC of your own?
Why did you expect your only 3 defenders to be enough to stop the ball from finding the net? You know that a TC gives a big boost to the manager using it.
About your second match I bet that if you had used the 433 B , assuming again that your first 11 line up was way stronger , you would have won this match.
Generally I think that the 343 can be effective vs formations with only 1 or even 2 Forwards.
Would you please like to share your own thoughts about the above ?
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@Majstor-Matt Hiya Matty.
Please mate , since you were so kind to share 2 of your match stats and thank you so much for that , do me this favor and let's have a discussion about these results. It would mean a lot to me. Because I know you are a well experienced manager and you are the same man who posted in the past amazing results on the Braggers topic showing how to counter a TC ( Training Camp ).
So I was wondering, what made you choose to use a 343B in both matches ? The 343B is a super offensive formation , isn't it ? Therefore I suppose in both cases you had the stronger line up , otherwise it would make no sense to go with this formation.
Now , according to your first screenshot you were facing a TC . And your opponent was using a 433 B , which is also considered as one of the best offensive formations.
My question would be : how come you didn't choose a super defensive formation to counter him , since you decided not to reply with a TC of your own?
Why did you expect your only 3 defenders to be enough to stop the ball from finding the net? You know that a TC gives a big boost to the manager using it.
About your second match I bet that if you had used the 433 B , assuming again that your first 11 line up was way stronger , you would have won this match.
Generally I think that the 343 can be effective vs formations with only 1 or even 2 Forwards.
Would you please like to share your own thoughts about the above ?@SUPERNOVA-8 - I think you have a point, going all out attack or offensive every game is risky. I'd either use a training camp against a training camp or go super defensive tbh. Also, I myself, don't expect to win every game and if i lose a game or draw an easy game against a weak club , I take the advice from commentators or stats themself from the match and improve them. It's not a big deal if you lose! You learn from your mistakes and/or failures!
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@Majstor-Matt Hiya Matty.
Please mate , since you were so kind to share 2 of your match stats and thank you so much for that , do me this favor and let's have a discussion about these results. It would mean a lot to me. Because I know you are a well experienced manager and you are the same man who posted in the past amazing results on the Braggers topic showing how to counter a TC ( Training Camp ).
So I was wondering, what made you choose to use a 343B in both matches ? The 343B is a super offensive formation , isn't it ? Therefore I suppose in both cases you had the stronger line up , otherwise it would make no sense to go with this formation.
Now , according to your first screenshot you were facing a TC . And your opponent was using a 433 B , which is also considered as one of the best offensive formations.
My question would be : how come you didn't choose a super defensive formation to counter him , since you decided not to reply with a TC of your own?
Why did you expect your only 3 defenders to be enough to stop the ball from finding the net? You know that a TC gives a big boost to the manager using it.
About your second match I bet that if you had used the 433 B , assuming again that your first 11 line up was way stronger , you would have won this match.
Generally I think that the 343 can be effective vs formations with only 1 or even 2 Forwards.
Would you please like to share your own thoughts about the above ?@SUPERNOVA-8 With the experience I ahve in countering TC's defensive style does not help a lot because they are too OP. When I use defensive stats I have lest shots and less chances to score as well. If I have played my 451 SOS here result would be even worse for me.
Best way to counter TC against a team that is still weaker in ratings vs you is to play agressive and attacking as u play usual.
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@SUPERNOVA-8 With the experience I ahve in countering TC's defensive style does not help a lot because they are too OP. When I use defensive stats I have lest shots and less chances to score as well. If I have played my 451 SOS here result would be even worse for me.
Best way to counter TC against a team that is still weaker in ratings vs you is to play agressive and attacking as u play usual.
@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 With the experience I ahve in countering TC's defensive style does not help a lot because they are too OP. When I use defensive stats I have lest shots and less chances to score as well. If I have played my 451 SOS here result would be even worse for me.
Best way to counter TC against a team that is still weaker in ratings vs you is to play agressive and attacking as u play usual.
What does too OP mean Matty?
For the TC scenario, I would go with a 4231 - SOS or with a 5311, 532 or even 631 with CA. Depending on my best possible combination of players.
I am surprised mate! But I respect your own experience. But then again , are you sure that in the past matches you had to face a 433 B and a camp and you beat your opponent with your offensive 343 B and without a counter camp ?
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@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 With the experience I ahve in countering TC's defensive style does not help a lot because they are too OP. When I use defensive stats I have lest shots and less chances to score as well. If I have played my 451 SOS here result would be even worse for me.
Best way to counter TC against a team that is still weaker in ratings vs you is to play agressive and attacking as u play usual.
What does too OP mean Matty?
For the TC scenario, I would go with a 4231 - SOS or with a 5311, 532 or even 631 with CA. Depending on my best possible combination of players.
I am surprised mate! But I respect your own experience. But then again , are you sure that in the past matches you had to face a 433 B and a camp and you beat your opponent with your offensive 343 B and without a counter camp ?@SUPERNOVA-8 OP means overpowered
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@SUPERNOVA-8 OP means overpowered
@Suleman____f Haha, thanks Sully !
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@SUPERNOVA-8 With the experience I ahve in countering TC's defensive style does not help a lot because they are too OP. When I use defensive stats I have lest shots and less chances to score as well. If I have played my 451 SOS here result would be even worse for me.
Best way to counter TC against a team that is still weaker in ratings vs you is to play agressive and attacking as u play usual.
@Majstor-Matt And another thought... If you are positive about this strategy vs Camps ... Again I can't help but wonder what would the result be if you had used a 433B instead of a 343 B , and while having the Home advantage and probably an upgraded Pitch
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@Majstor-Matt And another thought... If you are positive about this strategy vs Camps ... Again I can't help but wonder what would the result be if you had used a 433B instead of a 343 B , and while having the Home advantage and probably an upgraded Pitch
@SUPERNOVA-8 As far as I saw so far, no use of playing defensive. And I had plenty of success defeating camps before with 343. For example, this was title fight match where he camped me and I did not use it as I had to save for Chelsea in this league :
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@SUPERNOVA-8 As far as I saw so far, no use of playing defensive. And I had plenty of success defeating camps before with 343. For example, this was title fight match where he camped me and I did not use it as I had to save for Chelsea in this league :
@Majstor-Matt But in the 442oons league, DVD was a weak club - Managers FC was the most overpowered team in the universe but i still understand your point
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@Majstor-Matt And another thought... If you are positive about this strategy vs Camps ... Again I can't help but wonder what would the result be if you had used a 433B instead of a 343 B , and while having the Home advantage and probably an upgraded Pitch
@SUPERNOVA-8 But there is no point in all this. This game becomes more and more luck orientated as every day passes. And that is a fact. And this pay to win stuff is also increasing with every day. They have chosen that path for the game and we managers cannot do anything about it, no wonder many legends that had such superior tactics in past left the game. There is simply no point in playing this game competitively anymore.
New ranking system is cherry on top of the cake for my statement. Basically you can open account, boost it with plenty of coins and you will enter top 100 managers in world in 6 months If you have enough IQ in your head. Thats a sad fact.
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@Majstor-Matt But in the 442oons league, DVD was a weak club - Managers FC was the most overpowered team in the universe but i still understand your point
@Suleman____f I had same quality advantage in both other cases. I always do because my main forte is squad building and as long as the opponents do not use ridiculous amount of BC's they cannot keep up easilly with me.
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@SUPERNOVA-8 - I think you have a point, going all out attack or offensive every game is risky. I'd either use a training camp against a training camp or go super defensive tbh. Also, I myself, don't expect to win every game and if i lose a game or draw an easy game against a weak club , I take the advice from commentators or stats themself from the match and improve them. It's not a big deal if you lose! You learn from your mistakes and/or failures!
@Suleman____f It is a big deal if you lose to a computer in the cup semi-final and freakin MESSI'S missed penalty in the penalty shootout loses you the game, when you are the only manger left in the cup and the cup is literally being handed to you and you already are in first place in the league!
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@SUPERNOVA-8 But there is no point in all this. This game becomes more and more luck orientated as every day passes. And that is a fact. And this pay to win stuff is also increasing with every day. They have chosen that path for the game and we managers cannot do anything about it, no wonder many legends that had such superior tactics in past left the game. There is simply no point in playing this game competitively anymore.
New ranking system is cherry on top of the cake for my statement. Basically you can open account, boost it with plenty of coins and you will enter top 100 managers in world in 6 months If you have enough IQ in your head. Thats a sad fact.
My English is not very good, I use a translator, so I don't usually write in this forum, so excuse me.
I completely agree with Majstor Matt, the game evolves in a way and that has led to the abandonment of many people, some very good managers ... others we follow for friendships.
I have been eight years, I have been in several groups of the Spanish Community and in the Spanish Staff, and I think I know the game and the forums. I think that managers should be able to express our discomfort in the forum and be able to say what changes we like and which we don't. And if we do not like to eliminate the symbol of the game (doerak) or the modifications in the engine, which have been made, we can do it without being questioned. They are constructive criticisms, because the game had more personality with doerak, and the difficulty in winning was adequate, it did not depend so much on the luck factor, or on the time you have been using a tactic. Earlier you lost because the opponent found how to counter you, not by engine decision.Thanks.
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@SUPERNOVA-8 As far as I saw so far, no use of playing defensive. And I had plenty of success defeating camps before with 343. For example, this was title fight match where he camped me and I did not use it as I had to save for Chelsea in this league :
@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 As far as I saw so far, no use of playing defensive. And I had plenty of success defeating camps before with 343. For example, this was title fight match where he camped me and I did not use it as I had to save for Chelsea in this league :
I thought you were going to show us a screen shot of a winning match with your 343. What is the ( minus ) - 1 that I see here Matty?
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@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 As far as I saw so far, no use of playing defensive. And I had plenty of success defeating camps before with 343. For example, this was title fight match where he camped me and I did not use it as I had to save for Chelsea in this league :
I thought you were going to show us a screen shot of a winning match with your 343. What is the ( minus ) - 1 that I see here Matty?
@SUPERNOVA-8 - Matty won 3-1 its scrolled sideways to show the training camp pic
