Community Survey

Hafti Abi

@SpecialOne Nice to see that our requests got appreciated, big up for this, Albino!

Majstor Matt

Yes, I have to say as well. IT is nice to see that forum users opinion matters too. Its nice that we have a way to express our views oficially in a survey as well Thanks @SpecialOne

HBlauzahn

I think this survey is the best way to get an opinion from the community. Thanks a lot

SpecialOne

-Community Survey | Status update

Thanks again everyone for filling in the Community Survey. We wanted to give you all a status update since we are working on this.

As promised, 5 managers are randomly selected for the Boss Coin prize (500 Boss Coins). The lucky managers are:

German Chester
Nandão13
JAzevedo
TimoBauer
Chucky111 (Netherlands region)

About the survey itself: we're analysing all the data. It's a lot since so many of you helped us out by filling it in. We will let you know when we have the results.

Thanks again!

Majstor Matt

@SpecialOne Great. Thank you for the feedback and status report.

SpecialOne

-Community Survey | Results/Actions

Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
Return of Classic Battles (6%)
Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

What are we going to do about this?

We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

jeffro davies

@SpecialOne said in Community Survey:

-Community Survey | Results/Actions
Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)

Return of Classic Battles (6%)

Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

What are we going to do about this?

We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.

We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.

We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

Excellent news, thank you @SpecialOne .

Couple of questions about 2 and 3 please. What battle rules would be allowed with this concept, I know you say you are not certain just curious about your thoughts?

Also what solution have you seen and will be working on that’s time consuming? Sure there are lots of suggestions so I’m not sure which GB and yourself think are good or bad ideas for OSM?

Vincent Ado Kompany

@SpecialOne said in Community Survey:

-Community Survey | Results/Actions
Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)

Return of Classic Battles (6%)

Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

What are we going to do about this?

We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.

We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.

We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

Very good news. Bravo, you are the best

Majstor Matt

@SpecialOne Nice too see that our feedback is being taken into account in decision making. Thank you for the update.

reytinq

@SpecialOne nice

SpecialOne

@jeffro-davies Both points 2 and 3 are 'linked'

As was said several times over the past years, to lose on purpose is something that goes against all fair play, and the OSM Terms. This was the reason why we implemented Battles created with a specific schedule to avoid playing against your crew mates.

The implementation turned out to be much more complex than originally thought. That is why other options, like picking your league or playing friendlies were left out for a later date.

Since then we've been trying to find a workable solution that will make the battles more interesting for our old school/hardcore users in a tournament format. Unfortunately thus far we have been unable to come up with a solution that fits. Other solutions we have discussed turned out to require too much time or are too complex to implement (point 3).

Recently we have been looking at different options (point 2). We're evaluating the community requests and how we could implement them without hurting fair play for ALL users and/or the OSM Terms.

This is still in a very early stage and we are still not entirely sure it's possible, so for now we prefer to keep the specifics private. Of course as soon as we have something tangible to share we will! Until then we ask for your patience.

nelson6111

GB could create a league of 10 specific teams for these battles where no coaching points would be awarded
It would be a training league, a league where all the resources are available, cup, etc.
With this league created just for these battles, there is no more favor for anyone, it is just a training league with no coach points, the rules would be respected because there is no advantage or loss for any coach
Winning this league will not contribute any points to the personal ranking, thus rendering any kind of cheating useless and following the GB terms.

jeffro davies

@nelson6111 said in Community Survey:

GB could create a league of 10 specific teams for these battles where no coaching points would be awarded
It would be a training league, a league where all the resources are available, cup, etc.
With this league created just for these battles, there is no more favor for anyone, it is just a training league with no coach points, the rules would be respected because there is no advantage or loss for any coach
Winning this league will not contribute any points to the personal ranking, thus rendering any kind of cheating useless and following the GB terms.

This is why I suggested “manager points removed” option in the moderator tools when creating a league. I really hope GB and staff are working on this

Apocalipse4

Dear @SpecialOne,

After quite some time, since the annoucement of the end of the classic/forum battles, finally we have good news related to this issue. At least, we can assume, that you´ve been working on a solution, and the matter is definitely not closed. I think, that for the community, reversing the changes in app battles ( point 1 ) is a positive signal, and will allow balance and competitiveness among all. Regarding point 2, there will certainly be many applicable ideas that allow, the continuity of the classic/forum battles, maintaining respect for fair play and OSM terms. It was important that the dialogue between the GB and the community was resumed, and that common sense will be imperative for a future solution.
Thank You

Vincent Ado Kompany

I heard from some people that there is some surway in the app version about battle.

I checked the inbox, I don't have it at the moment, and I will check every day, so that I don't miss the survey.

Bruninho12almeida

@Ado-Hackovic I think it only appears for those who have not been in battle for some time.

SpecialOne

It looks like it's hard for some users to understand what's the intention of these surveys.

Surveys are targeted to a specific group of users, so we can understand what can be made to improve OSM in a way that this specific group of users change the way they play.

Actual survey is to find out why users that are in a crew doesn't play battles. So if you share the link to survey for others, it won't serve the purpose and results will be ignored!

I deleted previous link and no punishment was given. If you chose to insist, then harsher measures will be taken!

HBlauzahn

But why is there this link to the survey in the Dutch forum?
https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/topic/53162/vraag-aan-jullie-over-crewduels/27

SpecialOne

@HBlauzahn Because we all are humans and OSM players, so we make mistakes like all other OSM managers.

Tks for letting us know. Post deleted!

SpecialOne

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Community Battle survey

In the past, we've done multiple surveys to get your input on how we can improve Battles. As you know, we change the league and the settings now and then. These changes are based on feedback through community platforms, surveys and player behaviour.

Now, we'd like to hear your input again.
Note: This survey will only be shared on community platforms (not in-game) to capture the voice of the hardcore managers.

Please fill in this survey to share your input with us.

Thanks in advance!

We'll share the results soon and use it to decide on future Battle changes. The survey will close on July 11.

PS. The survey is in English. This makes analysing it and processing it quicker!