Divisions - Discussion/Questions....
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No answer? Its ok, you don't know it too, I understand.
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"Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein | "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle” - Albert Einstein | "Learning by making mistakes and not duplicating them is what life is about." - Lindsay Fox | "Everyone makes mistakes in life, but that doesn’t mean they have to pay for them for the rest of their life."
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@Lirind I have seen that comment, but this doesn't stand. Difference is way higher than 30k medals which someone could get that day. So yeah, this new ranking is worse than the old one. Managers with 100 wins, 4 trophies won are way higher than someone with 1200+ wins and more than 70 trophies won. Never mind, Im just wasting my time here.
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@JetonT hey man
in a few months as specified by the admin everything will be in order, which means the best will be at the top of the ranking , at the moment its a question that we all started the same in the medals, so even if one plays since yesterday and won the 4 championships today he is ahead of us, over time the good managers will do better results and will be remotely higher in the standings by those who are less experienced, it takes patience at the beginning of the divisions -
@alyssagb
Wow.. I really hope that additional work will then be done to Medal System, as this current one is terrible to be honest. There is no initiative for competitive play, only initiative is to play noob and half empty leagues in order to minimise the loss of medals which are hard to get when you reach lvl 10..I know I can come as a negative Joe many times, but this indeed is a sad sad day for OSM, specially for us who love competitive and hard leagues. There is no chance to climb up in the rankings and play competitive anymore
I love the game too much to stop playing it but OSM will never again be the same... RIP Manager Points, wellcome P2W Medals...
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@alyssagb
Manager Medals are the worst thing ever invented in OSM. In past 10 years I saw a lot of stupid things, but no matter what you do it can't get any worse than this stupid medals. Just another decision out of nowhere...decision to throw out the window points which managers collected for 10+ years. Well done.
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@menagerbl
Sad truth but once again it is shown that longterm customers are worth nothing to OSM because one guy that will spend 100euros in one league and then dissapear after that league is worth more to them than us who are playing the game for 10+ years...There were indeed many decisions over the years that were "kick in the nutts" for us "old timers" but this was the biggest and most dissrespectful decision GB (and Miniclip now) have done to those who spend the most time in the game.
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@alyssagb said in Game Updates:
Manager Points replaced by Manager Medals
A while ago we added Divisions to OSM. Data and various surveys that we have conducted in the past months show that Divisions is a success and is well used by our managers.
Divisions is a worthy replacement for the Manager Points system. Therefore, we're going to phasing out Manager Points in the coming months. After that, Manager Points will no longer be visible in OSM.
Good luck playing and competing for the highest Division!
Worst decision ever
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@majstor-matt It seems that we refuse to understand that OSM is just a business for them. A business from which they must earn as much money as possible.
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@majstor-matt
I saw how much they care about customers after winning OSM WC 2 times, ''the only official tournament organized by OSM''. They didn't found it appropriate to send me at least a letter, a shirt or whatever, just as souvenir. But if you buy a small pack of coins during weekend events for 15€ you have the chance to win a shirt. I mean I can live without these things, but this only shows how much they care.If they have at least 1% conscience then they should at least make some legacy section on our profiles to show our best world and nation ranking (manager pts ranking) ,total manager pts collected etc. and not to remove our complete game history like we never existed.
Not to mention that this medals system should be completely changed because at the moment it has no connection with logic and common sense.
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@manyac-xx I get that. But still, why was so hard to keep the MP system alongside this P2W system? Something for everyone.
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Good afternoon. I do not agree with the elimination of manager points. No matter how hard they try, they will never achieve a fair global ranking system. Not for points, not for medals.
Regarding WC 2021, we still don't know how it will be. I hope it is not because of the overall medal classification, because it will be very unfair for many coaches.
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@majstor-matt said in Game Updates:
@manyac-xx I get that. But still, why was so hard to keep the MP system alongside this P2W system? Something for everyone.
Because new users are investing more money to get to the top. To reach the top through manager points you have to play for a longer period of time and many do not have the patience to play for a year or more to get there. They want to be in top as soon as possible. So GB has created a system where new managers can reach the top very easily and quickly and so it makes them invest more and more money to stay there.
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you think that staff will even reply or care? All about the money. Very bad customer service. I agree with Nenad and Matt. This new ranking is shocking, people that play 4 easy leagues are better ranked than people that play against good managers in competitions and very strong leagues
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I'm seriously starting thinking that old customers are not liked very much from GB owners and from the ones who rules this game today.
Every single decision is taken against competitive game and against the people who plays since many years ago.
First has been canceling classic battles, for the "fair play" they said and isn't important if they've introduced the App battles where is not necessary that you know how to play...only important thing is to know the pin of the credit card. Then this system of divisions medals and other things where a kid can start today and next week he's better ranked than someone who's playing since 2010.
Win a game +400, lose a game -1400...playing competitive leagues is impossible to have a good Ranking...why? because kids must be ranked better than the old players otherwise they will get bored and will not ask for their father's credit card anymore.
Not a single decision taken in last 3 years was done for old customers...everything against competitive gaming and everything against us and this is very sad. -
The worst part is that all the well-ranked players spend next to nothing:
4 closed accounts, alone, against the computer so no recruiting, no friends, no training course no time accelerator ..... No logic ... Only dummies who will be the image of the game ... Ridiculous .. Why not take into account for medals only and only open championships !!!!! And on one account .. !!!!!!! At least we can play good championships against good managers on other ...
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@manyac-xx
I get all that, and it is shocking that they are not doing anything to at least keep a little bit of respect to older customers.. I mean even UEFA has a financial fair play.. lolAnyway, decision is made and we can wrkte whatever we want. It will never be the same anymore. They simply dont care about out feedback and opinion. Only cash talks.
But hey, lets not forget, classic battles are the main problem!
But when noob buys mass of BCs in a single league and is still using bot accounts to boost his precious Medals, then its okay -
@alyssagb Hello!
Call it a success it's not a responsible sentence, in my humble opinion.
I'm a really active player. I study a lot in order to improve my game and I have played the majority of the competitions. I've won 3 winners cup, for example, so I know deeply the app leagues. And I've also played forum individual and crew competitions, which are the best.
And my conclusion is that the best OSM players in the world are the ones who play really competitive leagues in the forum competitions. But if you play those type of competitions you will lose 5 to 10 games and you will always have a lower ranking.
Look at my specific case: I'm a 9 Division Player with 420k medals. When I play Historic Club Leagues, for example, where there are 22 rounds and all the players are good, even if I finish top 3 I will lose 5 games, minimum. That means I will lose 7.000 medals. If I win 11 games I will win 4.400 medals. If I drew 5 games I will win 200 medals. This means that my balance will be -2.400 medals. And I finished top 3 in the league. Do you call that a success?
OSM is choosing the profit path! What do you want is that players buy even more and more BCs. If you want a strong community you should rethink your decisions and evaluate it in a more responsible way. You are killing the OSM spirit and that doesn't connect me more to the game. Think wiser!
Best regards,
Rui
WINNER ICCL 2015/2016 - SURVIVOR 2018 - REGION 2019 - MASTER1800 2020 - ITALIAN CHAMPION 2020/2021 - WGC 2021 - CCWE 2020 - CCWE 2-4-6-7-9 2021/22 - 5 APPs ITALIAN NATIONAL TEAM