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  • SpecialOneS SpecialOne
    -Community Survey | Results/Actions
    

    Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

    Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

    Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

    Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

    1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
    2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
    3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

    What are we going to do about this?

    1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
    2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
    3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

    Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

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    @SpecialOne niceπŸ‘πŸ‘

    Ω†Ψ§Ω†Ψ³ΩŠ ΨΉΨ¬Ψ±Ω…

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    • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

      @SpecialOne said in Community Survey:

      -Community Survey | Results/Actions
      

      Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

      Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

      Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

      Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

      1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
      2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
      3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

      What are we going to do about this?

      1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
      2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
      3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

      Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

      Excellent news, thank you @SpecialOne .

      Couple of questions about 2 and 3 please. What battle rules would be allowed with this concept, I know you say you are not certain just curious about your thoughts?

      Also what solution have you seen and will be working on that’s time consuming? Sure there are lots of suggestions so I’m not sure which GB and yourself think are good or bad ideas for OSM?

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      SpecialOne
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      #25

      @jeffro-davies Both points 2 and 3 are 'linked'

      As was said several times over the past years, to lose on purpose is something that goes against all fair play, and the OSM Terms. This was the reason why we implemented Battles created with a specific schedule to avoid playing against your crew mates.

      The implementation turned out to be much more complex than originally thought. That is why other options, like picking your league or playing friendlies were left out for a later date.

      Since then we've been trying to find a workable solution that will make the battles more interesting for our old school/hardcore users in a tournament format. Unfortunately thus far we have been unable to come up with a solution that fits. Other solutions we have discussed turned out to require too much time or are too complex to implement (point 3).

      Recently we have been looking at different options (point 2). We're evaluating the community requests and how we could implement them without hurting fair play for ALL users and/or the OSM Terms.

      This is still in a very early stage and we are still not entirely sure it's possible, so for now we prefer to keep the specifics private. Of course as soon as we have something tangible to share we will! Until then we ask for your patience.

      "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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      • nelson6111N Offline
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        nelson6111
        Portuguese Users
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        GB could create a league of 10 specific teams for these battles where no coaching points would be awarded
        It would be a training league, a league where all the resources are available, cup, etc.
        With this league created just for these battles, there is no more favor for anyone, it is just a training league with no coach points, the rules would be respected because there is no advantage or loss for any coach
        Winning this league will not contribute any points to the personal ranking, thus rendering any kind of cheating useless and following the GB terms.

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        • nelson6111N nelson6111

          GB could create a league of 10 specific teams for these battles where no coaching points would be awarded
          It would be a training league, a league where all the resources are available, cup, etc.
          With this league created just for these battles, there is no more favor for anyone, it is just a training league with no coach points, the rules would be respected because there is no advantage or loss for any coach
          Winning this league will not contribute any points to the personal ranking, thus rendering any kind of cheating useless and following the GB terms.

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          jeffro davies
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          @nelson6111 said in Community Survey:

          GB could create a league of 10 specific teams for these battles where no coaching points would be awarded
          It would be a training league, a league where all the resources are available, cup, etc.
          With this league created just for these battles, there is no more favor for anyone, it is just a training league with no coach points, the rules would be respected because there is no advantage or loss for any coach
          Winning this league will not contribute any points to the personal ranking, thus rendering any kind of cheating useless and following the GB terms.

          This is why I suggested β€œmanager points removed” option in the moderator tools when creating a league. I really hope GB and staff are working on this 🀞

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          • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

            @jeffro-davies Both points 2 and 3 are 'linked'

            As was said several times over the past years, to lose on purpose is something that goes against all fair play, and the OSM Terms. This was the reason why we implemented Battles created with a specific schedule to avoid playing against your crew mates.

            The implementation turned out to be much more complex than originally thought. That is why other options, like picking your league or playing friendlies were left out for a later date.

            Since then we've been trying to find a workable solution that will make the battles more interesting for our old school/hardcore users in a tournament format. Unfortunately thus far we have been unable to come up with a solution that fits. Other solutions we have discussed turned out to require too much time or are too complex to implement (point 3).

            Recently we have been looking at different options (point 2). We're evaluating the community requests and how we could implement them without hurting fair play for ALL users and/or the OSM Terms.

            This is still in a very early stage and we are still not entirely sure it's possible, so for now we prefer to keep the specifics private. Of course as soon as we have something tangible to share we will! Until then we ask for your patience.

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            Apocalipse4
            Portuguese Users
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            Dear @SpecialOne,

            After quite some time, since the annoucement of the end of the classic/forum battles, finally we have good news related to this issue. At least, we can assume, that youΒ΄ve been working on a solution, and the matter is definitely not closed. I think, that for the community, reversing the changes in app battles ( point 1 ) is a positive signal, and will allow balance and competitiveness among all. Regarding point 2, there will certainly be many applicable ideas that allow, the continuity of the classic/forum battles, maintaining respect for fair play and OSM terms. It was important that the dialogue between the GB and the community was resumed, and that common sense will be imperative for a future solution.
            Thank You

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            • Vincent Ado KompanyV Offline
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              Vincent Ado Kompany
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              #29

              I heard from some people that there is some surway in the app version about battle.

              I checked the inbox, I don't have it at the moment, and I will check every day, so that I don't miss the survey.

              TOP G
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              • Vincent Ado KompanyV Vincent Ado Kompany

                I heard from some people that there is some surway in the app version about battle.

                I checked the inbox, I don't have it at the moment, and I will check every day, so that I don't miss the survey.

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                Bruninho12almeida
                Portuguese Users
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                @Ado-Hackovic I think it only appears for those who have not been in battle for some time.

                Sintra Crew Moderator

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #31

                  It looks like it's hard for some users to understand what's the intention of these surveys.

                  Surveys are targeted to a specific group of users, so we can understand what can be made to improve OSM in a way that this specific group of users change the way they play.

                  Actual survey is to find out why users that are in a crew doesn't play battles. So if you share the link to survey for others, it won't serve the purpose and results will be ignored!

                  I deleted previous link and no punishment was given. If you chose to insist, then harsher measures will be taken!

                  "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                  • HBlauzahnH Offline
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                    But why is there this link to the survey in the Dutch forum?
                    https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/topic/53162/vraag-aan-jullie-over-crewduels/27

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                    • HBlauzahnH HBlauzahn

                      But why is there this link to the survey in the Dutch forum?
                      https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/topic/53162/vraag-aan-jullie-over-crewduels/27

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #33

                      @HBlauzahn Because we all are humans and OSM players, so we make mistakes like all other OSM managers.

                      Tks for letting us know. Post deleted!

                      "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #34

                        Community Survey.jpg

                        Community Battle survey

                        In the past, we've done multiple surveys to get your input on how we can improve Battles. As you know, we change the league and the settings now and then. These changes are based on feedback through community platforms, surveys and player behaviour.

                        Now, we'd like to hear your input again.
                        Note: This survey will only be shared on community platforms (not in-game) to capture the voice of the hardcore managers.

                        Please fill in this survey to share your input with us.

                        Thanks in advance!

                        We'll share the results soon and use it to decide on future Battle changes. The survey will close on July 11.

                        PS. The survey is in English. This makes analysing it and processing it quicker! πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§

                        "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                        • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                          Community Survey.jpg

                          Community Battle survey

                          In the past, we've done multiple surveys to get your input on how we can improve Battles. As you know, we change the league and the settings now and then. These changes are based on feedback through community platforms, surveys and player behaviour.

                          Now, we'd like to hear your input again.
                          Note: This survey will only be shared on community platforms (not in-game) to capture the voice of the hardcore managers.

                          Please fill in this survey to share your input with us.

                          Thanks in advance!

                          We'll share the results soon and use it to decide on future Battle changes. The survey will close on July 11.

                          PS. The survey is in English. This makes analysing it and processing it quicker! πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§

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                          wrote on last edited by
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                          @specialone

                          When will the results be announced?

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                          • Sir MehmetS Sir Mehmet

                            @specialone

                            When will the results be announced?

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                            jeffro davies
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                            @mehmetcetintd said in Community Survey:

                            @specialone

                            When will the results be announced?

                            @SpecialOne you tagged the wrong name @MehmetCetinTD

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                            • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                              @mehmetcetintd said in Community Survey:

                              @specialone

                              When will the results be announced?

                              @SpecialOne you tagged the wrong name @MehmetCetinTD

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                              Sir Mehmet
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                              @jeffro-davies

                              Maybe if I had tagged you I would have gotten an answer by now.

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                              • Sir MehmetS Sir Mehmet

                                @jeffro-davies

                                Maybe if I had tagged you I would have gotten an answer by now.

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                                jeffro davies
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                                #38

                                @mehmetcetintd said in Community Survey:

                                @jeffro-davies

                                Maybe if I had tagged you I would have gotten an answer by now.

                                πŸ˜‚yes you would have😁I’m nobody on the game though unfortunately.

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                                • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                                  @mehmetcetintd said in Community Survey:

                                  @jeffro-davies

                                  Maybe if I had tagged you I would have gotten an answer by now.

                                  πŸ˜‚yes you would have😁I’m nobody on the game though unfortunately.

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                                  Sir Mehmet
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #39

                                  @jeffro-davies

                                  Don't worry, everbody in this game is actually nobody. 😏

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                                  • SpecialOneS Offline
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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #40

                                    Community Survey.jpg

                                    Results community battle survey

                                    Thanks for all the input, we got 700+ reactions from a survey that was shared only in the community! We're especially proud of that number since it's representative for so many hardcore managers.
                                    About the results.

                                    • A large majority would like Training Camps to be disabled in Battles (which they already are).
                                    • A small majority would like Secret Trainings to be disabled in Battles.
                                    • A large majority would like instantly finishing timers to be disabled in Battles.
                                    • A majority would like compensating Club Funds to be disabled in Battles (which it already is).
                                    • A majority is satisfied with the current leagues that Battles are played in.
                                    • Everyone is equally divided on the frequency of changing the Battle settings.

                                    A loud, clear and understandable message from the pro's. A tactical and equal Battle is what you all want. So that's what we're going to do. The next Battle update will be with all Boss Coin settings off! Besides that we will keep the current league rotation system, with big leagues and small leagues.

                                    You can expect this update on August 11. We'll keep updating the settings roughly every 4 months in the future.

                                    Thanks again for giving us your opinion and good luck in your next Battle!

                                    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                                    • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                                      Community Survey.jpg

                                      Results community battle survey

                                      Thanks for all the input, we got 700+ reactions from a survey that was shared only in the community! We're especially proud of that number since it's representative for so many hardcore managers.
                                      About the results.

                                      • A large majority would like Training Camps to be disabled in Battles (which they already are).
                                      • A small majority would like Secret Trainings to be disabled in Battles.
                                      • A large majority would like instantly finishing timers to be disabled in Battles.
                                      • A majority would like compensating Club Funds to be disabled in Battles (which it already is).
                                      • A majority is satisfied with the current leagues that Battles are played in.
                                      • Everyone is equally divided on the frequency of changing the Battle settings.

                                      A loud, clear and understandable message from the pro's. A tactical and equal Battle is what you all want. So that's what we're going to do. The next Battle update will be with all Boss Coin settings off! Besides that we will keep the current league rotation system, with big leagues and small leagues.

                                      You can expect this update on August 11. We'll keep updating the settings roughly every 4 months in the future.

                                      Thanks again for giving us your opinion and good luck in your next Battle!

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                                      Dennis S Bergkamp
                                      English Users
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #41

                                      @specialone Thanks mate for listening! πŸ˜ƒ πŸ‘

                                      Hopefully this will give a new boost to crew battles again!

                                      You can either blame everybody else or you can take a look at yourself and determine where you can improve.

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                                      • Dennis S BergkampD Dennis S Bergkamp

                                        @specialone Thanks mate for listening! πŸ˜ƒ πŸ‘

                                        Hopefully this will give a new boost to crew battles again!

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                                        jeffro davies
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                                        #42

                                        @dennis-s-bergkamp said in Community Survey:

                                        @specialone Thanks mate for listening! πŸ˜ƒ πŸ‘

                                        Hopefully this will give a new boost to crew battles again!

                                        I’m sure it will, my crew will play now once they’re turned off😁

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                                        • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                                          Community Survey.jpg

                                          Results community battle survey

                                          Thanks for all the input, we got 700+ reactions from a survey that was shared only in the community! We're especially proud of that number since it's representative for so many hardcore managers.
                                          About the results.

                                          • A large majority would like Training Camps to be disabled in Battles (which they already are).
                                          • A small majority would like Secret Trainings to be disabled in Battles.
                                          • A large majority would like instantly finishing timers to be disabled in Battles.
                                          • A majority would like compensating Club Funds to be disabled in Battles (which it already is).
                                          • A majority is satisfied with the current leagues that Battles are played in.
                                          • Everyone is equally divided on the frequency of changing the Battle settings.

                                          A loud, clear and understandable message from the pro's. A tactical and equal Battle is what you all want. So that's what we're going to do. The next Battle update will be with all Boss Coin settings off! Besides that we will keep the current league rotation system, with big leagues and small leagues.

                                          You can expect this update on August 11. We'll keep updating the settings roughly every 4 months in the future.

                                          Thanks again for giving us your opinion and good luck in your next Battle!

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @specialone

                                          Now that this discussion is closed, could you reopen the "Crew Battle Ranking - Discussion, comments..." topic?

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