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  • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

    Have you looked at my comment about my crews battles search missing EOK Albino please? The one where they got matched with RD and we didnโ€™t get matched with any of them?

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    @jeffro-davies yup... need to investigate it a bit, but no connection to DB at this momment... ๐Ÿ˜ž

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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    • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

      @jeffro-davies yup... need to investigate it a bit, but no connection to DB at this momment... ๐Ÿ˜ž

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      @SpecialOne thank you๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

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      • Koning CoK Offline
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        I don't like the new ranking. I would like to choose my own leagues when it comes to manager level. Most of the time this is:

        • Main account more active league (but playable while logging in once per day); subaccounts less active leagues. This means I would play main account on my own level, but subaccounts 2 levels below my own level in the new system.
        • Less active leagues in winter time, a little more active leagues during summer time (except when on holiday)

        I hope I can still choose on which servers and on which level I want to play. Otherwise I will consider to play bad on purpose on subaccounts to prevent that my main account can only play in difficult leagues.

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          hello I have a suggestion
          it would have been great to have the same individual ranking system as for battles! Let me explain: a system of divisions in which you can register for a short championship (6 or 8 teams) whose destination is defined by GB and changes every two weeks, with a pre-season day and without a cup. And where one faces opponents of his division; this would have allowed to progress in a healthy way in the divisions, all in full championships ... Frankly it would be great ... the idea of โ€‹โ€‹these divisions is great but the achievement much less for the moment

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          • Joe McNorthManJ Offline
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            #20

            With all due respect, this update was ๐Ÿ’ฉ. Enjoy it GB ๐Ÿ˜‰ .

            Aces of Kosova โ€” The New OSM Challengers

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            • MenagerBLM MenagerBL

              @Majstor-Matt
              As you said, there is no logic at all...
              This is the profile of a manager from top20 on Global ranking:
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              Makes no sense... ๐Ÿ˜

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              @MenagerBL said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

              @Majstor-Matt
              As you said, there is no logic at all...
              This is the profile of a manager from top20 on Global ranking:
              18.png
              Makes no sense... ๐Ÿ˜

              Why isnโ€™t this explained? How can this profile be in the top 20 if all 4 accounts are looked at and used for starting positions?

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                Is it games won and lost with the starting positions in the global ranking? Must be and nothing to do with 4 accounts combined manager points? No explanation on this.

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                • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                  Is it games won and lost with the starting positions in the global ranking? Must be and nothing to do with 4 accounts combined manager points? No explanation on this.

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                  @jeffro-davies I think I saw them saying that only ranking slot gave you starting points (MP's mainly). Also I hguess that manager in top 20 had 2 or 3 leagues finished in last couple days as finishing a league gives you unrealisticly high bonus. One of my teammates got 40k for theit Thailand league finish 2 days ago.

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                  ๐Ÿฅ‰ OSM Nations Cup 2021 - 3rd place (Croatia)
                  Crew: Proud to be Croat

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                  • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

                    @jeffro-davies I think I saw them saying that only ranking slot gave you starting points (MP's mainly). Also I hguess that manager in top 20 had 2 or 3 leagues finished in last couple days as finishing a league gives you unrealisticly high bonus. One of my teammates got 40k for theit Thailand league finish 2 days ago.

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                    @Majstor-Matt still no proper explanation how it was worked out at the start though. Iโ€™ve won more games than him, lost more also but have loads more manager points than him over all 4 accounts. If the other 3 donโ€™t count thatโ€™s fine, would be better with an official answer.

                    Would be nice to know how they worked out the starting ranking by someone who knows for sure though mate. Questions asked and not answered. Iโ€™m also being very polite so no reason not to get a reply. They want managers to take this ranking seriously then Staff should answer questions on it.

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                      #25

                      Really nice update, finally there is a level for managers, nice job GB.
                      hey mans, just calm down because you're not in the high divisions doesn't mean it's OSM's fault,if you're good enough you'll be in the high divisions. Finally OSM thinks well, that a manager who has won more games with 4 slots must be higher than the one who plays only with main slots, with the ranking of managerpoints only, you saw managers in the top 100 with only 1000 wins in the whole his career, very bad ... Now whoever plays with 4 slots and wins the most games is higher in the divisions whoever plays only with one slot will be in the division he deserves to be.
                      the things to improve in medals:
                      1 ---> +10 experience bonus per game
                      2 ---> -500 resignations

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                      • roni medaR roni meda

                        Really nice update, finally there is a level for managers, nice job GB.
                        hey mans, just calm down because you're not in the high divisions doesn't mean it's OSM's fault,if you're good enough you'll be in the high divisions. Finally OSM thinks well, that a manager who has won more games with 4 slots must be higher than the one who plays only with main slots, with the ranking of managerpoints only, you saw managers in the top 100 with only 1000 wins in the whole his career, very bad ... Now whoever plays with 4 slots and wins the most games is higher in the divisions whoever plays only with one slot will be in the division he deserves to be.
                        the things to improve in medals:
                        1 ---> +10 experience bonus per game
                        2 ---> -500 resignations

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                        @roni-meda Update is not bad, Its just not developed enough so far. Problem is that in a year there will be too many Lvl 10 - Legend managers ( considering its easy to collect these medals) and also problem is that if all slots are combined for rankign, then all slots should've been taken into account for "starting points".

                        All in all, its not a bad idea, just needs a bit more touches to it to make it more realistic and in order to give some meanings to divisions. Because if everyone will be level 10 soon, then what is the point in it?

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                        ๐Ÿฅ‰ OSM Nations Cup 2021 - 3rd place (Croatia)
                        Crew: Proud to be Croat

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                        • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                          @Majstor-Matt still no proper explanation how it was worked out at the start though. Iโ€™ve won more games than him, lost more also but have loads more manager points than him over all 4 accounts. If the other 3 donโ€™t count thatโ€™s fine, would be better with an official answer.

                          Would be nice to know how they worked out the starting ranking by someone who knows for sure though mate. Questions asked and not answered. Iโ€™m also being very polite so no reason not to get a reply. They want managers to take this ranking seriously then Staff should answer questions on it.

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                          @jeffro-davies Again... why don't you read before start making posts like this????? Write all this kind of things and later excuse because you missed it doesn't solve everything...

                          Just check my post on previous page... If you want to check if the answer given is correct or if this was some sort of bug, just get the manager name of the user on the screenshot!

                          "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                          • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

                            @roni-meda Update is not bad, Its just not developed enough so far. Problem is that in a year there will be too many Lvl 10 - Legend managers ( considering its easy to collect these medals) and also problem is that if all slots are combined for rankign, then all slots should've been taken into account for "starting points".

                            All in all, its not a bad idea, just needs a bit more touches to it to make it more realistic and in order to give some meanings to divisions. Because if everyone will be level 10 soon, then what is the point in it?

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                            @Majstor-Matt said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                            .... Because if everyone will be level 10 soon,....

                            I wouldn't count on it....

                            The higher you get, the lower the points you can earn and higher the penalties for losing. It will become more and more chalenging to keep increasing, but as I said already, let's give it some time and then take some conclusions ๐Ÿ˜‰

                            Give this system a chance to prove it's value ๐Ÿ‘

                            "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                            • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                              @Majstor-Matt said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                              .... Because if everyone will be level 10 soon,....

                              I wouldn't count on it....

                              The higher you get, the lower the points you can earn and higher the penalties for losing. It will become more and more chalenging to keep increasing, but as I said already, let's give it some time and then take some conclusions ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              Give this system a chance to prove it's value ๐Ÿ‘

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                              Koning Co
                              English Users
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                              @SpecialOne Can we keep playing on a lower level when we play less active? For example pick an strong league of my own division with my main account, but weaker leagues with subaccounts? Most of the time I play less active on subaccounts, so I don't want to play against the most active / best managers with my subaccounts.

                              I hope the division structure doesn't restrict the number of leagues I can play.

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                              • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                                @jeffro-davies Again... why don't you read before start making posts like this????? Write all this kind of things and later excuse because you missed it doesn't solve everything...

                                Just check my post on previous page... If you want to check if the answer given is correct or if this was some sort of bug, just get the manager name of the user on the screenshot!

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                                @SpecialOne said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                @jeffro-davies Again... why don't you read before start making posts like this????? Write all this kind of things and later excuse because you missed it doesn't solve everything...

                                Just check my post on previous page... If you want to check if the answer given is correct or if this was some sort of bug, just get the manager name of the user on the screenshot!

                                Least I admit when Iโ€™m wrong not like on my last thread I made on the crew battle searching.

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                                • Koning CoK Koning Co

                                  @SpecialOne Can we keep playing on a lower level when we play less active? For example pick an strong league of my own division with my main account, but weaker leagues with subaccounts? Most of the time I play less active on subaccounts, so I don't want to play against the most active / best managers with my subaccounts.

                                  I hope the division structure doesn't restrict the number of leagues I can play.

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                                  @KoningCo It's up to you to chose which leagues you want to join and in case you don't find any league that pleases you, you can always create your own league and selet which managers can join.

                                  OSM provides suggestions of leagues to managers, but there are options for users to pick leagues that suites their preferences

                                  "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                                  • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                                    @KoningCo It's up to you to chose which leagues you want to join and in case you don't find any league that pleases you, you can always create your own league and selet which managers can join.

                                    OSM provides suggestions of leagues to managers, but there are options for users to pick leagues that suites their preferences

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                                    @SpecialOne I hope choosing leagues remains as it is right now. I don't want to create leagues myself, but join leagues which contain enough human managers (strong opponents on my main accounts, a little weaker opponents on my subaccounts).

                                    Have you read the suggestion I posted in August? I still haven't received any reply on that one: https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/post/1003007

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                                    • Koning CoK Koning Co

                                      @SpecialOne I hope choosing leagues remains as it is right now. I don't want to create leagues myself, but join leagues which contain enough human managers (strong opponents on my main accounts, a little weaker opponents on my subaccounts).

                                      Have you read the suggestion I posted in August? I still haven't received any reply on that one: https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/post/1003007

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                                      @KoningCo said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                      Have you read the suggestion I posted in August? I still haven't received any reply on that one: https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/post/1003007

                                      As it was already stated on that topic, only in really rare situations feedback will be provided, but rest assured that all suggestions are read ๐Ÿ‘

                                      "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                                      • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                                        @KoningCo said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                        Have you read the suggestion I posted in August? I still haven't received any reply on that one: https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/post/1003007

                                        As it was already stated on that topic, only in really rare situations feedback will be provided, but rest assured that all suggestions are read ๐Ÿ‘

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                                        @SpecialOne said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                        As it was already stated on that topic, only in really rare situations feedback will be provided, but rest assured that all suggestions are read ๐Ÿ‘

                                        Too bad GB still doesn't understand this. Users want to interact with GB. If they say it's technically impossible then it's fine for me. But many of us feel that GB only implements idea's that they figured out themselves and never implement good idea's that were posted by users.

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                                        • Koning CoK Koning Co

                                          @SpecialOne said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                          As it was already stated on that topic, only in really rare situations feedback will be provided, but rest assured that all suggestions are read ๐Ÿ‘

                                          Too bad GB still doesn't understand this. Users want to interact with GB. If they say it's technically impossible then it's fine for me. But many of us feel that GB only implements idea's that they figured out themselves and never implement good idea's that were posted by users.

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                                          Hello, are medals taken into account in battles?
                                          I never have medals after my battle matches, nor at the end of the last battle yet won individually and collectively 5 days ago.
                                          At least I have the impression ...

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