Specific Player Positions - Discussion Topic
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I also noticed that the transfer list / transfer worker needs adjustments after this change. On my Aldosivi subaccount there are no side midfielders (MR/ML) or wingbacks (DR/DL) on the transfer list at the moment, while nobody bought a player on these positions after the last transfer worker.
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@boivino_nl I second your opinion...
At its current form, the 'Specific Positions'-functionality may well be the end of 'Free'-play. I think that for lots of Managers (me included) this will have a huge impact in the way how they manage (progress) their Team. Before this Update for instance, I was used to first sell a Player and then find a replacement on the Transferlist. With the current Transferlist, I do not see this happening anymore as the number of available Players for a specific Position is very limited. As an example, in our current CrewDuel, there is no RM available. Hence, you can only recruit one via the Scout, which means more planning upfront and lots of BossCoins.
I know the overall goal of the Developers (Gamebasics/Miniclip) is to generate more revenue (by increasing the need for buying more BossCoins), but I think this Update will eventually purge lots of 'Free'-Players (again... me included).
In my opinion, some changes are needed in order for this Update to work...
First of all, the Transferlist needs more available Players for all the different positions.
It also makes no sense that a Player has only 1 fixed Position, this makes rotating your Squad very difficult as you are forced to have backup players for every position.Up until now, OSM was a very nice game to play, but I do not know if that will still be the case after this Update.
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@boivino_nl said in Game Updates:
terrible update, get rid of it a soon as possible. Will only benifit paying players who can throw bosscoins at the scout for specific players. Squad will need to be much bigger to play certain formations.
Terrible terrible terribleLooks like you're the one guy in a million who didn't want this to happen
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One question based on the new position feature. Is the centre-forward(secondary striker) position available?
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As much as I always wanted this update to happen (since the start of my OSM career I wanted to see positions on OSM) I must agree with some people here and say that sadly this update was not ready yet to be implemented on OSM. Some of the problems I have with this:
- too many players are put in certain positions, while in real life they play couple positions
- some positions are not well presented on the transfer list, and in game in overall (too few RM & LM players specifically)
These 2 problems are biggest ones for me. Just as the medals system, on its own this is a great idea, but its been rushed and not worked out well before being put into game.
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Would be nice to just get a heads up and say it goes live on a certain date, instead of “from now”. A lot of people have 4 accounts and in competitive leagues and won’t have teams ready. A few days earlier it wouldn’t have been hard to just say it goes live on 10th feb on the 7th feb for example. @SpecialOne
I won’t say anything else on the subject, no point, just get ignored
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@kromunal said in Game Updates:
- Does this mean that in a formation with 1 FW, we can not give him support midfielders, because it must be ST who has little defensive skills?
- Why are there no RB on my transfer list?
There are no RBs because there are not much full backs in the world.
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As much as I always wanted this update to happen (since the start of my OSM career I wanted to see positions on OSM) I must agree with some people here and say that sadly this update was not ready yet to be implemented on OSM. Some of the problems I have with this:
- too many players are put in certain positions, while in real life they play couple positions
- some positions are not well presented on the transfer list, and in game in overall (too few RM & LM players specifically)
These 2 problems are biggest ones for me. Just as the medals system, on its own this is a great idea, but its been rushed and not worked out well before being put into game.
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@kiing-7 said in Player positions:
Now managers will need to have specific players for each position in their squads, this isn't unique at all.
Yes, I agree
@wakil-isco is it for everyone now? I can see it as well but I was thinking about what could potentially happen should I not follow it.
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@wakil-isco is it for everyone now? I can see it as well but I was thinking about what could potentially happen should I not follow it.
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@wenger-wise Or maybe just create a fantasy league WITHOUT Transfers, pretty simple.
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@kromunal said in Game Updates:
- Does this mean that in a formation with 1 FW, we can not give him support midfielders, because it must be ST who has little defensive skills?
- Why are there no RB on my transfer list?
There are no RBs because there are not much full backs in the world.
- There is 4292 players that can cover RB position. SOURCE
- There is 4251 players that can cover LB position. SOURCE
Problem is, as i states in my previous post, GB marks certain players as CB even though they can easilly play many positions.
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Now managers will need to have specific players for each position in their squads, this isn't unique at all.
Would it affect the rating and performance of the players if for example LF played as a RF ??
I already built my squad in a very very combative league ( 19 active and friends managers ) and its not easy to rebuild a team in that league
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@koningco said in Game Updates:
@specialone Why is there no post about the random transfer worker times here? Is this a temporary test or will we keep this randomness? I had workers at 14:49 and 15:26 on my Aldosivi subaccount, which is too close together in my opinion.
No update, because this is not final yet!
We only provide updates when things are fully implemented.
Same thin is valid for the player positions. No info is provided because it's not fully implemented yet;!
Like with many new features, we first enable it for a small part of our managers. This is done randomly. When the feedback is positive, we will almost always implement the feature for all the managers.
@specialone Too bad that there is nobody from GB is online to answer questions while this change is suddenly implemented and has huge impact on the matches tonight. We really need more information about the impact of letting players play out of position. For example: I appear to have 4 DC's and 1 DR in my team, how big will the reduction for my DC with 14 Att be when I pitch as DL? Or would it be better to buy a DL on the transferlist which has a 10% lower defending rating because he performs better on DL than my current player.
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Would it affect the rating and performance of the players if for example LF played as a RF ??
I already built my squad in a very very combative league ( 19 active and friends managers ) and its not easy to rebuild a team in that league
@mαhmouժ-muhαmmαժ Yes, you can continue using your forwards as you like.
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@specialone Too bad that there is nobody from GB is online to answer questions while this change is suddenly implemented and has huge impact on the matches tonight. We really need more information about the impact of letting players play out of position. For example: I appear to have 4 DC's and 1 DR in my team, how big will the reduction for my DC with 14 Att be when I pitch as DL? Or would it be better to buy a DL on the transferlist which has a 10% lower defending rating because he performs better on DL than my current player.
@koningco said in Specific Player Positions - Discussion Topic:
... has huge impact on the matches ...
Unfortunately, we can't share information on the exact impact of bonuses. However, we can share that lining up all your players on their specific positions will generate a bonus that's comparable to lining up the right Specialists.
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I also noticed that the transfer list / transfer worker needs adjustments after this change. On my Aldosivi subaccount there are no side midfielders (MR/ML) or wingbacks (DR/DL) on the transfer list at the moment, while nobody bought a player on these positions after the last transfer worker.
@koningco said in Specific Player Positions - Discussion Topic:
... there are no side midfielders (MR/ML) or wingbacks (DR/DL) on the transfer list ...
You can still use all Attackers/Midfielders/Defenders on their positions. Specific players on their specific position just adds a bonus.
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As much as I always wanted this update to happen (since the start of my OSM career I wanted to see positions on OSM) I must agree with some people here and say that sadly this update was not ready yet to be implemented on OSM. Some of the problems I have with this:
- too many players are put in certain positions, while in real life they play couple positions
- some positions are not well presented on the transfer list, and in game in overall (too few RM & LM players specifically)
These 2 problems are biggest ones for me. Just as the medals system, on its own this is a great idea, but its been rushed and not worked out well before being put into game.
@majstor-matt said in Specific Player Positions - Discussion Topic:
- too many players are put in certain positions, while in real life they play couple positions
Yes, some players can play on several positions in real life. But most of them have one favourite specific position. The position in which the player features most, is used as their specific position in OSM.
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New in OSM: Specific Positions! We heard your call about more possibilities to expand your tactical skills as a manager in surveys, social platforms and emails. Thanks for that! We especially loved the idea of more player positions.
From now on, players in OSM have a specific position instead of only defender, midfielder and forward. For example, Sergio Ramos is now a centre back.
In OSM, players perform best in their own specific position, but they can still play in other positions in the line. Beware: players still perform worse in a different line.
Use your Scout or the Transfer List to build your best team with the specific positions of the players.
You can discuss this update in here with other managers!
@specialone Would be so cool if we had some numbers, or rough estimation what does "performing worse" actually means, is it like 10-20-30% performance decrease, or. One thing I've noticed, transfer lists will have to be a bit more flexible, for example, in my Italian league, whole transfer list is populated by CBs only, no other types of defenders
*Cool update, though. Much more interesting to build a team now!
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@majstor-matt
Hey mate, notice the source you sent, in that many players are actually centre-backs and defensive midfielder. Right backs and left back is just one of their utility position.Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
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