Divisions - Discussion/Questions....
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Vinayak Singh Mehra English Usersreplied to Vinayak Singh Mehra on last edited by Vinayak Singh Mehra
@vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:
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- At the moment I get always the same number of medals if I beat a human manager, no matter which goal I'm or which goal he is. It's always the same...Till now most managers played with lower goals (goal 16, goal 13, goal 9 etc.) just in order to collect more MP's. Does it mean that with the removal of MP's club goals are becoming irrelevant? Why would I choose to manage WBA or Fulham in EPL? Ofc I will take ManCity or Liverpool...
Can you explain please...
On manager points system, the points you get to beat a goal 1 or a goal 16 is exactly the same, the difference lies on the end of season bonus (that's added on a daily basis on manager points and only at the end of season on Medals system). The bonus you get for finishing on a specific position depends on the goal of the team you played with!
I am really sorry to say, but this is just not true. By winning against a goal 1 team you earn MUCH more MPs than winning again a goal 16 team. NOT taking into account the end of season bonus added every day.
For me is really bad, if people who defend to cancel the existing system obviously do not EVEN KNOW how the existing system is working!
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I have another issue, a kind of bug with the medals. i play all games and gain/loose medals for the games of the day. within the night there is an update of the app. then the following day, i "play" the games of the evening before again, and again gain/loose the medals of this games. so i gain/loose always twice, if there is an update (which is quite often).
does anyone else has the same problem?
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I have a quite easy suggestion to solve the issue with losing medals if you play competetive leagues. in the settings of the league for the moderator should be added the possibility to switch of the medals. than it would be clear, that in this league you neither win nor loose medals, including the medals for the ending of the season.
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@somrob
Now playing with teams with low objectives means loss of more medals. And most of all, you lose thrice the number of medals (which you get when you win a match) when you lose a match. I agree your point
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@vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:
Now playing with teams with low objectives means loss of more medals
If you are a bad manager, you are sure to lose more medal points.
The only difference is that you get the same number of medal points when you take a club with obj 16 and obj 1, while with manager points it is not so. And if you want to be on top, you have to play with 4 slots -
@vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:
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@SpecialOne said:
There will never be a perfect system that please all users
...so we decided to create a system that almost everyone will hate
there was also a lot of cheating with old ranking, but that didn't ended up in such a fast climb in rankings which make it difficult to spot them, now with 4 slots adding together, it's easier to spot them and they will be caught/punished faster.
ladies and gentlemen, i want to introduce you to @фаркоп_1, Russia top-1 since the beginning of spring
if you wish, you can check the style of his play
On the technical side, old ranking system is becoming way too heavy for engines with the increase of number of users (keep in mind that every user have up to 4 entries on MP ranking system)
it's 2021... can anyone believe in this?
and my favorite:Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills
the winner of the strongest CIS league received a negative bonus according to its results
playing against a manager with a much stronger lineup, the system considers such a balance of points to be fair
maybe I'm wrong, but having the status of admin and forum moderator, one of your missions is to convey a message from the community to the developers
Based on the all-time low rating message, have you decided that everything is ok? I think you are useless to the community, but only contribute to the transformation of a good game (which is an important part of the lives of thousands of people around the world) into another casual shit from the playmarket. Bon Appetit. -
@wenger-wise This is the case, the game has become boring with the classification of medals
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I do not know what to add I have already said everything, or passed on the information and examples by the staff of my country ... It was however so simple to limit the ranking of medals to a single account and not to the 4, and to count that the open championships ....
8 years of the game going up in smoke .... more fun ... thank you
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@timilic7 Competitive players will leave the game if it stays "balanced" This is not real balance. So only casuals will be left in the game, and soon, it will jsut get boring, and the game will die off. To quote the great Winston Churchill, "Now is not the end. Nor is it the beginning of the end. But, perhaps it is the end of the beginning." It's t he end of the beginning of this game. It's been going strong-ish for years, now the player drop off, soon to come, then the game being down to the casuals only, dying off, with all of us going to the almost as broken FIFA, shell out the bucks for Football Manager, or switch to Top 11. If nothing happens, this game is doomed.
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@timilic7 Now the coaches will cut the game because of the non-existent justice and the game just wants to make money
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@wakil-isco No need to even spend money ... 4 closed championships, against the computer, all the time .. No recruitments no friends no training camp ..... So no need to even give up money
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@timilic7 But what is the goal of the game against a computer and not playing against experienced coaches? Is this because of a stupid, ignorant arrangement that has no benefit?
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@wakil-isco No interest, but in any case that no longer allows me to be at the top of the ranking while playing osm duels with my crew or championships against a good manager ... And leaves room at the top representing the eh we likes to the majority of average players ...
Who have a division and a ranking above mine in 6 months -
@timilic7 Unfortunately, this is the reality. Now we will see what will happen when the training points are deducted, and whether the medal system will be modified
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@wakil-isco
i like the new medal system, higher ranking is harder to hold on. just the top 100 ranking gives opportunity to play private leagues in order to manipulate your ranking by easy winning your own league cause there is no competition. top 100 manager should forced to play competition tournaments or leagues by osm system randomly once per month and up to 4 slots. 🦿
️ so beat the AI … -
A suggestion
When we are defeated, the medallion points decrease, but this is not so. Isn't it too much to lose more than 1500 medal points, even if we lose 3 times what we earn from the points won against the manager, but you lose more than 10 times the winnings, when we win against a manager, we give us 88 medallion points against the team without a manager. 8 -12 points it's not fair, we can't always play against the manager team so we can win the points we lost -
@tagovailoa The new medal system is unbalanced.
This picture here from the earlier post by @Wenger-Wise shows that this is not the case. Look at the balance between lost and won medals. I forgot, no balance. It's too unpredictable. and also... when you said "just the top 100 ranking gives opportunity to play private leagues in order to manipulate your ranking by easy winning your own league cause there is no competition. top 100 manager should forced to play competition tournaments or leagues by osm system randomly once per month and up to 4 slots. 🦿️ so beat the AI …"
Can you go into more detail here, and how does support your claim of manager medals being the better ranking form? -
@kloppindakop Sure, it‘s harder to stay on top by higher degressing than progressing. i have level 10 and a loss costs me over 1500 points. you have to play constantly better to rise up and to do this you should get more variable not using just one or two formations. managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent, also when you invest money they have advantage but this is ok cause osm can not live just by advertising.
the transfersystem is now harder too, of course not realistic but for gameplay more balanced. survival of the fittest forced managers to adapt their strategy, new rules, new challenge.
