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  • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

    @dennis-s-bergkamp said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    I know @woopertje did join once and he couldn't manage it either, Although he had difficulty of having a goal 1.

    We're playing now the 139th Season, we already had 104 different managers playing on it and only 36 different managers won it 🏆

    But let's get back on topic, otherwise I'll have to warn/ban myself 😄

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    @specialone said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    @dennis-s-bergkamp said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    I know @woopertje did join once and he couldn't manage it either, Although he had difficulty of having a goal 1.

    We're playing now the 139th Season, we already had 104 different managers playing on it and only 36 different managers won it 🏆

    But let's get back on topic, otherwise I'll have to warn/ban myself 😄

    Let’s make it 37😉I see 5 CPUs in the current one. Sure you could make room for me in the next one. Think this is like the 20th message you have ignored me now over the last few months😂least you’re talking to others and answering questions which is good. I won’t ask again, il take the hint and won’t talk about it anymore.

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    • V Vinayak Singh Mehra

      Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
      https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

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      Vinayak Singh Mehra
      English Users
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      @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

      Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
      https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

      You can still use this guys.

      Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
      Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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        @somrob
        Now playing with teams with low objectives means loss of more medals. And most of all, you lose thrice the number of medals (which you get when you win a match) when you lose a match. I agree your point 👍

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        Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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        • V Vinayak Singh Mehra

          @somrob
          Now playing with teams with low objectives means loss of more medals. And most of all, you lose thrice the number of medals (which you get when you win a match) when you lose a match. I agree your point 👍

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          @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

          Now playing with teams with low objectives means loss of more medals

          If you are a bad manager, you are sure to lose more medal points.
          The only difference is that you get the same number of medal points when you take a club with obj 16 and obj 1, while with manager points it is not so. And if you want to be on top, you have to play with 4 slots

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          • V Vinayak Singh Mehra

            Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
            https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

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            Vinayak Singh Mehra
            English Users
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            @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

            Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
            https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

            Hello everyone! The results of this survey will be given after this month ends. If you haven't have your opinion, then check it out!

            Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
            Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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              @SpecialOne said:

              There will never be a perfect system that please all users

              ...so we decided to create a system that almost everyone will hate

              there was also a lot of cheating with old ranking, but that didn't ended up in such a fast climb in rankings which make it difficult to spot them, now with 4 slots adding together, it's easier to spot them and they will be caught/punished faster.

              ladies and gentlemen, i want to introduce you to @фаркоп_1, Russia top-1 since the beginning of spring
              if you wish, you can check the style of his play
              фаркопчик дорогой.png

              On the technical side, old ranking system is becoming way too heavy for engines with the increase of number of users (keep in mind that every user have up to 4 entries on MP ranking system)

              it's 2021... can anyone believe in this?
              and my favorite:

              Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills

              the winner of the strongest CIS league received a negative bonus according to its results 🙂
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              playing against a manager with a much stronger lineup, the system considers such a balance of points to be fair
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              maybe I'm wrong, but having the status of admin and forum moderator, one of your missions is to convey a message from the community to the developers
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              Based on the all-time low rating message, have you decided that everything is ok? I think you are useless to the community, but only contribute to the transformation of a good game (which is an important part of the lives of thousands of people around the world) into another casual shit from the playmarket. Bon Appetit.

              Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills.

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              • Wenger WiseW Wenger Wise

                @SpecialOne said:

                There will never be a perfect system that please all users

                ...so we decided to create a system that almost everyone will hate

                there was also a lot of cheating with old ranking, but that didn't ended up in such a fast climb in rankings which make it difficult to spot them, now with 4 slots adding together, it's easier to spot them and they will be caught/punished faster.

                ladies and gentlemen, i want to introduce you to @фаркоп_1, Russia top-1 since the beginning of spring
                if you wish, you can check the style of his play
                фаркопчик дорогой.png

                On the technical side, old ranking system is becoming way too heavy for engines with the increase of number of users (keep in mind that every user have up to 4 entries on MP ranking system)

                it's 2021... can anyone believe in this?
                and my favorite:

                Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills

                the winner of the strongest CIS league received a negative bonus according to its results 🙂
                жо банди.png

                playing against a manager with a much stronger lineup, the system considers such a balance of points to be fair
                sss.png

                maybe I'm wrong, but having the status of admin and forum moderator, one of your missions is to convey a message from the community to the developers
                39.png
                Based on the all-time low rating message, have you decided that everything is ok? I think you are useless to the community, but only contribute to the transformation of a good game (which is an important part of the lives of thousands of people around the world) into another casual shit from the playmarket. Bon Appetit.

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                @wenger-wise This is the case, the game has become boring with the classification of medals

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                • wakil iscoW wakil isco

                  @wenger-wise This is the case, the game has become boring with the classification of medals

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                  I do not know what to add I have already said everything, or passed on the information and examples by the staff of my country ... It was however so simple to limit the ranking of medals to a single account and not to the 4, and to count that the open championships ....

                  8 years of the game going up in smoke .... more fun ... thank you

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                  • timilic7T timilic7

                    I do not know what to add I have already said everything, or passed on the information and examples by the staff of my country ... It was however so simple to limit the ranking of medals to a single account and not to the 4, and to count that the open championships ....

                    8 years of the game going up in smoke .... more fun ... thank you

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                    @timilic7 Now the coaches will cut the game because of the non-existent justice and the game just wants to make money

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                    • wakil iscoW wakil isco

                      @timilic7 Now the coaches will cut the game because of the non-existent justice and the game just wants to make money

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                      @wakil-isco No need to even spend money ... 4 closed championships, against the computer, all the time .. No recruitments no friends no training camp ..... So no need to even give up money

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                      • timilic7T timilic7

                        @wakil-isco No need to even spend money ... 4 closed championships, against the computer, all the time .. No recruitments no friends no training camp ..... So no need to even give up money

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                        @timilic7 But what is the goal of the game against a computer and not playing against experienced coaches? Is this because of a stupid, ignorant arrangement that has no benefit?

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                        • wakil iscoW wakil isco

                          @timilic7 But what is the goal of the game against a computer and not playing against experienced coaches? Is this because of a stupid, ignorant arrangement that has no benefit?

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                          @wakil-isco No interest, but in any case that no longer allows me to be at the top of the ranking while playing osm duels with my crew or championships against a good manager ... And leaves room at the top representing the eh we likes to the majority of average players ...
                          Who have a division and a ranking above mine in 6 months

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                            @wakil-isco No interest, but in any case that no longer allows me to be at the top of the ranking while playing osm duels with my crew or championships against a good manager ... And leaves room at the top representing the eh we likes to the majority of average players ...
                            Who have a division and a ranking above mine in 6 months

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                            @timilic7 Unfortunately, this is the reality. Now we will see what will happen when the training points are deducted, and whether the medal system will be modified

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                              @timilic7 Unfortunately, this is the reality. Now we will see what will happen when the training points are deducted, and whether the medal system will be modified

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                              @wakil-isco
                              i like the new medal system, higher ranking is harder to hold on. just the top 100 ranking gives opportunity to play private leagues in order to manipulate your ranking by easy winning your own league cause there is no competition. top 100 manager should forced to play competition tournaments or leagues by osm system randomly once per month and up to 4 slots. 🦿⚽️ so beat the AI …

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                                A suggestion
                                When we are defeated, the medallion points decrease, but this is not so. Isn't it too much to lose more than 1500 medal points, even if we lose 3 times what we earn from the points won against the manager, but you lose more than 10 times the winnings, when we win against a manager, we give us 88 medallion points against the team without a manager. 8 -12 points it's not fair, we can't always play against the manager team so we can win the points we lost

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                                  @kloppindakop Sure, it‘s harder to stay on top by higher degressing than progressing. i have level 10 and a loss costs me over 1500 points. you have to play constantly better to rise up and to do this you should get more variable not using just one or two formations. managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent, also when you invest money they have advantage but this is ok cause osm can not live just by advertising.
                                  the transfersystem is now harder too, of course not realistic but for gameplay more balanced. survival of the fittest forced managers to adapt their strategy, new rules, new challenge.

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                                    @kloppindakop Sure, it‘s harder to stay on top by higher degressing than progressing. i have level 10 and a loss costs me over 1500 points. you have to play constantly better to rise up and to do this you should get more variable not using just one or two formations. managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent, also when you invest money they have advantage but this is ok cause osm can not live just by advertising.
                                    the transfersystem is now harder too, of course not realistic but for gameplay more balanced. survival of the fittest forced managers to adapt their strategy, new rules, new challenge.

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                                    @tagovailoa said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                    managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent,

                                    Yes you can prevent that. You want to play private league? You can, but no manager medals/points for that league. Also a simple fix by giving more value for beating higher ranked managers. A win vs lvl 1 or 2 manager cannot be valued the same as a win vs.lvl 9 or 10 manager. And thos bots that are used in private leagues are mainly always max lvl 5.

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                                      @tagovailoa said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                      managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent,

                                      Yes you can prevent that. You want to play private league? You can, but no manager medals/points for that league. Also a simple fix by giving more value for beating higher ranked managers. A win vs lvl 1 or 2 manager cannot be valued the same as a win vs.lvl 9 or 10 manager. And thos bots that are used in private leagues are mainly always max lvl 5.

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                                      @majstor-matt adapting the AI they can do but then not only for privates leagues. the question is whether managers resigning more rather than step new in when the entire gameplay is harder by AI.

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                                        @kloppindakop osm make it already easier by the game consulting guy. everybody has support by tactic forum too, so it‘s not a rocket sciense to earn some medals. maybe they raise the bonus points to enter a top ranking and give newbies some more coins to aim the first task in schedule. i would vote for a level 11 instead making the medals system easier but anyway i am not in charge.

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                                          @SpecialOne Hello

                                          Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first 😂.

                                          I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

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